I think i missed this in the news cycle. Anyone that can fill me in?
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You can sue for monetary damages, you can sue to block development if you belive it violates zoning laws, you can sue to stop an executive order.
Right this goes to attrition.
Can this prevent the collapse of the government and a US occupation? Maybe, if it doesn’t though it will cause endless insurgency even if the US props up a friendly government.
Then we just get Afghanistan all over again.
The real question is can these autonomous cells continue operating their regions independently and for how long. Maintaining governance and a prolonged guerilla campaign aren’t the same.
And you know I hope they do repel the US, but I feel like it’s crazy to dismiss it as impossible
That is a very good point and seems likely if anyone tries to mount a full scale invasion.
You’ve clearly have never dealt with real world logistics in your life
Starting with the snark? Sure I tried to make my comment respectfully but whatever.
You’re not wrong, but the US could certainly throw a lot more into it. Then it, as I said, will come down to drones. That’s a function of time and deployment speed before the bombs hit. Currently I think the US has the raw numbers of munitions to overwhelm the country, but day by day that changes.
Plus it’s not like any of us has the up to date figures from each country. I personally thinkk dismissing either possible outcome is just really stupid. I’ve tried not to make it sound like my speculation was fact, but what I believe was the most likely outcome.
You only have to look at a map to realize that Iran is a very mountainous country that would be a nightmare to fight in.
Yes I’m well aware. This why I specifically said they could overwhelm the government. I do believe just due to raw numbers of munitions and equipment that the US currently could take out the centralized government (think more bombs and less boots), but as I said control would be a long bloody occupation that would never succeed. Just like Afghanistan just way more bloody.
I think you’re also dismissing US logistical capabilities in that part of the world. They spent 20 years setting up client states, Israel will give them all the access they need, and the majority of Europe is complicit allowing American bases to continue to operate within their borders.
But then again who really knows. I can’t outright dismiss your claim, and it would.be silly to do so. I think it’s more likely that the US could do it, but I can’t garuntee it. As I said each day the US doesn’t commit to a large scale invasion it increases Iran’s odds tremendously. Iran does need to build up enough drones. I don’t believe they have enough yet. They’re definetly working on it.
I don’t disagree with you in drones tech either. I think it just comes down to numbers and continued capabilities to launch the drones.
Unless that encourages the US to deploy everything to avoid that. We can’t even begin to predict what the idiot in charge will do.
If he goes that route the government of Iran would probably fall after a lot of death and then a long bloody, and ultimately unsuccessful, occupation would follow.
Hopefully he’s not dumb enough to try, and everyday the US doesn’t fully invade does tilt the scales in Iran’s favor
Right you just made his point? Cost is relevant as the conflict continues. If the US committed everything it could likely overwhelm the government (probably leading to an Afghanistan 2), but the longer the conflict goes the scales tip in favor of Iran due to these costs.
Unfortunately all it would take is a fast deployment tactic dedicating everything the US has. It comes down to raw numbers of immediately available manpower, aircraft, and munitions. The US has a stupid amount of these things at the ready.
It would be bloody and brutal and not certain, but I’d say the US would have a decent chance of overrunning the country.
Now this will only topple the government, then you get into a whole Afghanistan situation again. So I suppose it depends on what the definition of victory is. Could the US defeat Iran and occupy it? I think it’s likely, but the second they leave a new government that hates the US (rightfully) forms. Could they occupy indefinitely? Probably at a steep cost.
So I see a path for the US to overwhelm the Iranian military, but no real way for them to ever establish control of the region. I wouldn’t call that a win for the US for sure



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