Hasn’t the US been doing this to arrivals for decades? Seems to be a lob sided article.
Go & have a gander at the article posted earlier about how intentional confusion is par the course. Save this b/c you are high ( that’s ok no judgement here) we simply want a sense of reference to circle back to. Again no judgement. Just please, for the love of goodness, be on game with intelligent opines & worthy counterpoints.
WTF did I just read!?
Just pay attention to the first sentence. It is the only crucial bit of pertinent information.
The terrorists win
I had a student visa for the UK back in 2018. I had to go to st.louis (3 hr drive) and get both my palms/fingers and my face scanned.
When I arrived in the UK, the university also scanned my palms/fingers to make sure they matched. I can’t recall if my face was scanned again. I thought it was overkill but they apparently had a problem with people coming in with student visas and never attending university.
I found this unlikely because to get my visa I had to not only prove I had enough finances for the tuition but living expenses amounting to around 30,000 USD. For the year I would be there. (I was getting fasfa loan money and they accepted this).
I also paid nearly $800 USD for the visa and healthcare that was required.
Oh and the classrooms had scanners on them and I had to scan my ID for every attendance. To prove I was attending classes.
And I was doing a research program so after 6 months I wasn’t attending classes, just doing research. So not scanning my ID anywhere. And I got a notice I would be deported in 30 days if I wasn’t attending. I had to call them up and explain the situation. And then I just started scanning my ID on random doors every day. Just to be sure I didn’t get flagged again.
I have a hard time believing some university would spend money on regular badge readers on classroom doors, even more on setup and maintenance of passport scanners. Which university was it? What kind of id were UK citizens using?
Swansea university in Swansea Wales.
Yep. Every classroom door had them.
https://hwb.swansea.ac.uk/hwb/student-id-card/
All Swansea University students are issued with a Student ID card, sometimes also called a library card.
Your Student ID card allows you to: swipe in to record your attendance at lectures
borrow items from the library
use the library printing, copying and scanning services
access certain study rooms and labs
identify yourself at University exams
obtain sports and student society memberships
Also I don’t think these are too expensive. I’ve worked at a lot of places that had security badge swipes at the doors.
Thanks for the update. Wow, I’m impressed. For some reason I thought those were passport scanners or something. Still, digitally registering attendance feels quite fancy compared to my experience in more run down universities (not in the UK).
Anyhow, it’s a bit of a shame that you had to pretend attending lectures for immigration purposes when you were already studying as a researcher
I get that it feels good to give Americans a taste of their own survailance border, but this is bad, building a survailance network “at the border” will inevitably expand inwards.
So they will ‘face’ the same stuff Europeans used to ‘face’ when entering the US.
So?
What do you mean “so”? It’s just… news. A thing that’s happening that people might want to know about.
First sentence in the article
Americans traveling to Europe are now encountering major changes at border crossings as the European Union’s long‑planned Entry/Exit System (EES) has officially come into force.
Confusing headline
Intentionally confusing.
This had been planned and pushed back something like 3 or 5 years, so it’s no surprise, and doesnt affect that many Americans. Without confusing you to think you’ll be fingerprinted to go to the store, it’s not getting a lot of clicks.
I took confusing as in “tourists to the US”, not Americans facing the scanning
Yeah thought it was about the US being shit as usual but its actually about the EU going to shit.
Your face and your fingerprint was already in the passport they scanned though…
I don’t think your fingerprint is in your passport.
It is in some countries. E.g Estonia
I’m certain your fingerprint isn’t on my passport.
It is if you’ve ever picked up your passport.
First thing I do in the morning is put on a fresh pair of gloves for the day.
Do you know for a fact that you’ve never sleep walked and held your passport?
I do! Because I’ve never bothered getting a passport…
I visited a decade ago and they were already fingerprinting us on arrival…no blood samples though…so it could be worse :D
Europe?
And there will still be morons who think visiting the US is fine.
This article is about a Europe system
Oh, well that makes sense then. I wouldn’t want them in my country either. Carry on.
And not limited to just US tourists as the headline implies. Garbage journalism.
I’m with the other millions of Canucks who will never, EVER step foot in the US again.
Article is about Europe
My bad. Should’ve read the article instead of going on the title alone.
Its the titles fault, i thought the same too
Same.
