Donald Trump has promised to pardon his White House staffers, reported the Wall Street Journal’s Josh Dawsey in an exclusive report on Friday.
Dawsey, the veteran DC reporter, cited “people who have heard his comments” in the bombshell report revealing that Trump is asking his staff to operate with a sense of impunity.
“I’ll pardon everyone who has come within 200 feet of the Oval,” Trump reportedly told staffers “in a recent meeting to laughs.”
When you start pardoning everyone… When you start operating so much outside of the law that this becomes SOP…
…You gotta stop and really question if what you’re doing is actually right or not.
And this guy is the PRESIDENT? Damn man. For shame.
I know the US has had an extremely troubled history and is constantly making costly ethical mistakes. But… This is just like… An exceptionally dark time for the USA. And that’s saying something.
Like, for real. What’s the exit plan here? What’s the actual outcome of this gonna be? How bad is this gonna get? And how do we, as people, overcome this?
All black pills and cynicism aside, this has got to stop, and the only way it’s going to, is with leadership with power. What type of leader is going to be the spearhead for the step forwards?
Biden already set precedent by pardoning his entire administration to prevent malicious prosecutions from this one. Motivation may have been different, but that doesn’t really change that he just promised to do the same thing Biden did.
BOMBSHELL!!!
That’s quite literally not a way out for these traitors. That will just give the individual states easily winnable cases against anyone that accepts a pardon.
If the non-fascists take back Congress, we can change the current laws & simply extradite the rest of them to the Hague. And we’ve now seen how fast the federal government can move when it wants to.
If the non-fascists take back Congress.
Big “if” right there…
yeah agreed. I keep circling around the fact that our government is completely captured across every branch and party, and the interests that have it captured care nothing about Americans, or are hostile and just using us. The 2 political parties dictate the outcome for primaries, so they will never let an honest actor win a national primary unless a secret-decent person manages to sneak through their net, which seems unlikely given the grooming process politicians need to go through before they get any real power. Mamdani won because mayoral races arent as hard to enter and get funded as federal races are. But he did it despite the dems massive efforts to backstab his campaign into oblivion. Can that scale nationally? Seems hard to beleive.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/zohran-mamdani-democratic-party-establishment/
So whats inevitable now : Social programs and free speech/protests will inevitably be removed. I cant see a midterm win by dems leading to a turnaround in our national descent into fascism. Its really just a matter of time until some sort of revolution happens, and the centrists are just playing for time in an utterly doomed system. We’re in a dead zombie democracy that was a watered down version of democracy even when it was alive.
The response to this needs to be a resounding, “LOL, no,” from whatever administration comes next. The constitution gives the President the power of the pardon? Well, if gives Congress power of the purse, but we let him ignore that. The Supreme Court will intercede? One of them is married to a J6er, another one is openly taking bribes, and ar least three of them committed perjury when they told Congress said they wouldn’t overturn precedent. Our country can’t continue without accountability.
I guess a future president could fix it with more pardons. Make a list of people who if they receive mob justice from, the mob are instant pardoned. Might at least get the SC to rein in pardon power.
Because for me it’s not really about the people in the administration. Yeah, they suck and should be sent to the Hague. But there have been so many people that have bought pardons from the administration and they are the worst of the worst. Talking people who robbed and killed the elderly, some of the biggest con men and fraudsters. So damn many, they don’t even ever make the news.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot, but the problem is that the President can only pardon federal crimes, so if a mob drags Steven Miller from his house in California and kills him, the President can’t do anything to intervene. However, I’m pretty sure that the President could pardon crimes committed in D.C., and the Supreme Court has basically said the President can’t be held accountable for crimes committed in office, so in theory, a future President could order agents to take Miller into custody, bring him to D.C., and execute him. He could then pardon everyone involved and no one could be held accountable.
Considering that the SC has basically given the President king powers, the president could make an executive order that any place that domiciles those people on that list is considered federal property while they are there. The current admin has argued more absurd things then that in court already.
Promises like his tax returns, the Epstein Files, payments to contractors, payments to rally organizers, that kind of a promise? Or the promises to stay faithful to his 3 wives, of which he cheated on the prior one with the future one.
Thwump has never understood the definition of the word “promise”.
Its the same vibe as that one kid in school saying “swear on my life on my LIFE that means if Im lying ill actually die i swear on my MOMS LIFE too im super serious”
He could do something really funny and have a heart attack before pardoning anyone.
They would have a weekend at Bernie’s before they would let the public know.
As soon as he kicks the bucket there will be a massive power vacuum and everyone will change their policies to align with Vance. Nightmare scenario tbh, I hope he lives til the day he goes lame duck.
You had me at heart attack
You have to be charged first morons
Didn’t Biden preemptively pardon his family to prevent them from being heckled by this maniac?
Cant the president undo that shit if he wants to?
And citizens are supposed to pay taxes to support these criminals?
Well, true Americans, not the woke American left or antifa /s
I guess if they do they feel represented by them, isn’t that their whole thing?
How is this a “bombshell”? Like really? Was this not assumed? Hell we don’t even know if this shit is technically illegal, immoral yes completely.
It’s not illegal, unfortunately.
The bombshell is: His staff, despite interacting with the guy daily, believed him, I guess…
Well why not? He likely will throw pardons around (it likely makes him hard to abuse the system). At this point they kinda have to go for broke, they are “all in” so to speak.
I still want SOMEBODY in his corrupt regime to end up in prison.
Sorry best we can seem to do is the collapse of the american empire.
Has he ever kept a promise, even accidentally?
To help out his friends and sycophants? Yes? I mean he pardoned those Jan 6 people already, and they did not even directly work for him.
Openly manipulating markets and now betting sites for personal gain. They have already embezzled billions. Crypto scams up the wazzo.
The grift knows no end.
So what. He promises a lot of things he doesn’t deliver. Staffers know that best of anyone.
They should, but so many still get caught out thinking they were special and that surely after 79 years, they’d be the person Trump didn’t screw over
I’m not sure they are thinking that. I bet they think they are the one person who can somehow ride the wave that it trump and find a way off it and still win. Like how a golddigger is hoping the guy will die soon. I mean, while hw is a grifter, he is a sloppy one. So the people around him end up recieving plenty of the spoiles of his grifting (points to stock market data right before trump does something that affects it greatly). So even if he does turn on them, they usualy come out rather rich.
This is why I don’t want bondi being investigated right now. I can wait 3 years.
Why do they need assurances that they’d get pardons?
This is the guy that claimed anyone taking the Fifth was guilty, now promising pardons?
The system allows it, real democracies don’t rely on people’s good faith
More corruption. And Americans continue to do nothing .
I think most Americans are apathetic about issues that don’t effect our lifestyles. We don’t necessarily like the actions of our country as a whole, but we limit our outrage to the internet and the ballot box.
Too bad the ballot box won’t be much of an option for you, but most won’t even notice form how many don’t bother to vote.
