We are in the age of AI, why not just accept it? Are people threatened by this? Are they disgusted? This is the start of my research. I have learned to use AI in a way that makes my life easier. So why so much hate against it? Are they jealous? Please debate but don’t argue in the comments. I want a civil debate. Intelligible answers only.
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The simple answer is fear.
They’re worried about many of the facets that relate to this, primarily how it will affect them personally via things like job losses or increased personal costs (electricity rates are a big one right now).
It’s amusing because the “It’s bad for the environment” crowd is either a) really stupid or b) using it as an excuse because they don’t want to say they’re worried about their jobs.
These people care very little about their environmental impact via other aspects of their life that are FAR more significant than AI will ever be. Meat production alone consumes like 20-25% of global energy usage, and AI is at around 0.3-0.4% of global total energy use. People eating meat one day less per week would save more energy than AI is even predicted to use in a worse case scenario in the next 20 years.
Now clearly there are some vegetarians around these days, but even most of those are doing it for ethical animal reasons rather than because of energy use issues. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10100114/
However, while I continue to see these people drive their SUV home from the AI protest, stop at the grocery store to pick up a steak for dinner, and then cook it in their 2500 square foot house that only holds 3 people I’m going to ignore their whining about energy and the environment. They’re nothing but scared hypocrites.
We didn’t need to force the wheel or the internet down everybody’s throats. We just converted to a society using wheels. So why the fuck is AI so “useful and necessary” while simultaneously being forced down our throats? When has a great invention that ever changed our entire society ever needed to be forced?
Who is forcing it? Could you provide an example? Are you referring to the fact that it is now integrated into nearly everything: social media, applications, websites etc. or are you implying that people are just telling everyone if they don’t use AI they are wasting their time? How is it being forced because the last time I checked I had a choice whether to use it?
Personally, I don’t hate the technology. I hate what we seem to be sacrificing in its pursuit: the environment, the right to privacy and literacy. Also, it provokes me when I see people, such as coworkers and friends, refer to LLM frontends as a source of intelligence in the context of looking for answers in formal (workplace, government, education) and informal (socializing) situations. It really shouldn’t be bothering me if I know how I want to attain knowledge. I should just go about my day, but it provokes me still. I’m sure there was similar debate and division during the industrial revolution, though. Whatever. I have - hopefully - 60 more years to live and I don’t really care about what this technology does or doesn’t do to the upcoming generations. I’m not having kids anyway and I’m sure I’ll figure out how to process my feelings eventually in order to stop caring about how people interact with knowledge.
Well, I just paid $1000 for 2x 20TB HDDs … so that’s my #1 reason.
This is so sad. This is what made me press “cancel” instead of “confirm” yesterday. 😭 Although I was “merely” looking at some 4TB Samsung EVO 870s for A THOUSAND BUCKS EACH. 💥
I get annoyed when it gets put in my way of doing what I’m doing. The top 10 search results are AI slop when I’m looking for information about some obscure topics for example.
I’ve had it do useful tedious things for me. It’s failed at found useful difficult things. I’ve not paid for any specialised model though.
That explains it pretty well
https://benjaminhollon.com/musings/stop-asking-writers-about-ai/
An interesting take and I would like to have the faith that the writer has at humans giving preference to human artists inherently.
My concern would be that should these writing bots become ‘good enough’ where the development and consistency is at least passible, then the fact that the costs of creating it are so negligable becomes a real factor.
If a book by an AI vs a real author, particularly in the fiction realm where facts don’t matter, are not wildly distinguishable but one is produced for a fraction of the cost, it has to have some impact.
This only points to a possibility that people are threatened by the use of AI. I’ve read this article before. It doesn’t explain everything I need to know about this.
You’re going to have to define AI in order to have a worthwhile discussion. The term can mean anything from computer-vision analysis of medical images (which is saving lives) to a collective term for the historic-scale grift by superwealthy which is going to tear up the economy when the bubble bursts (the effects of which will probably kill people).
Which “AI” do you mean?
This should be a poll. Why do you hate “AI”?
- The sheer volume of hype it gets is horrifying and everyone needs to stop talking about it
- It’s a trillion dollars of wasted investment capital that is going to wreck the financial markets
- Its main use is generating bullshit and we already have enough of that
- All the talk about the dangers of AI superintelligence is insulting to real intelligence
- Slop is no substitute for thought and it’s drowning out real culture
- All the fucking bots are making life hard for web server admins for no good reason
- The amount of energy it wastes is unconscionable
- Almost every use of it seems to be a misuse of it
- It’s too expensive to be worthwhile
- It’d have to get a lot more expensive if the people selling it were ever going to stop losing money
- The more people rely on it the worse it makes everything
- Nobody has the slightest idea how they could ever make it trustworthy
- Its output is often wrong in subtle ways that are hard to detect
- People have a tendency to imagine intelligence where it isn’t there, causing psychological harm
- Nobody can afford dram any more
- That you found something it seems useful for is outweighed by all of the above
These are weak points to me. I could care less about more than half of these. The only one I am concerned now about is the psychological one. That you have made a good point. Though, trying hard in workplaces is now almost effortless for me, my brain might eventually stop working as hard and that is a good point. Thao makes me want to use AI less at work knowing that my mind isn’t really being exercised ass much. You could have really had a good debate about that but the others are flumadiddle to me so I won’t debate them.
Are you an LLM? Or just a troll? That’s another problem with “AI” — it’s hard to tell, these days.
Neither. I just don’t care for the other points you have made. I validate that they are points but they are not something I value. No I don’t insult you. I asked for a civil debate. But you seems to gloss over that and call me a troll or an LLM lol .when someone loses a debate they result to name calling. As you have done.
Some of these points are super weird. Like this for example. What does this even mean?
All the talk about the dangers of AI superintelligence is insulting to real intelligence
Who is this “real intelligence” who’s offended by people talking about a hypotethical thing that’s even more intelligent?
People dislike the lack of effort and environmental impact that results in an amalgamation of stolen work. While artificial intelligence can indeed be put to greater use and benefit humanity in fields like agriculture, medicine, industrial development, etc., morons use it to generate slop that in no way benefits the goal audience and is written off as “the future”. Some examples of said practices are Nvidia, OpenAI, Meta and Microsoft. Not to mention how much money is wasted for nothing.
I mean I use it in my work and for entertainment. The entertainment part probably is what pisses people off because it is usually judged by them as nonsense. So what I am getting is if you are not productive with AI, then AI is useless. But I find being entertained as a use in and of itself. It is definitely occupying and serves the same purpose as watching TV or streaming a show.
The people behind it! That Altmann guy. Mark Zuckerberg. The Anthropocic gnome.
Why do people hate them? Just because they are rich? I won’t defend them but it doesn’t change the usefulness of AI. I have run into so many people who now use AI in their jobs and it makes working ten times easier. They feel like they haven’t done much work and still get paid a full salary. What’s wrong with that? Of course the rich are corrupt. Money corrupts everyone, eventually. People hate AI thinking it will one day go away. LMAO. It ain’t going anywhere. They can hate all they want. It’s not going to change anything.
