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Let’s not defend evil just because another evil bonked it on the head, shall we?
Funny euphemism for starting a war of aggression and bombing an elementary school on day one. They “bonked” about 180 schoolgirls between the ages of 7 and 12.
I don’t follow. What? When you see two evil dudes fight do you start rooting for the one that got punched first just because they got punched first?
I will explain my position starting from the broader picture and then going further into specifics.
- Starting a war of aggression is considered by many to be the prime war crime as it that enables every subsequent war crime.
- Wars of aggression contravene the UN Charter, and therefore outside of extremely extenuating circumstances, the defending party is by default in the right.
- The United States is the global hegemon, while Iran is a mid-sized state fighting against imperial domination. Iran is therefore de-facto fighting for the rights of all countries against imperial domination.
- The US started this war during negotiations, which were in fact just a ruse to cover for the impending war. They began the war by assassination Iran’s civilian leadership, which is itself a war crime, and blowing up an elementary school, killing 180 little girls (also a war crime, if I actually have to explain this to you).
- US/Israeli leadership are nazi pedophiles.
- Israel, enabled by the United States, is presently committing Genocide against the captive Palestinian population. Genocide is the greatest crime against humanity in international law, making all other crimes pale in comparison, and any country fighting against a genocidal country is by default the side to support.
Therefore, Iran is by a wide margin the most just belligerent in this war, and your equivocating them with the United States and Israel is basically like equivocating the WW2 allies (who were no angels, remember - the US had segregation, the British starved millions of Indians) with Nazi Germany.
Your snide reddit-style comment - “le heckin authoritarians are bonkin’ each other!” - is in extremely bad taste given the crimes against humanity that are being committed daily, and is indicative of a chauvinist worldview that speaks very poorly to your character.
You must be living under a rock if you think Iran hasn’t been stirring shit for decades. It’s an awful theocratic dictatorship that has done nothing but spread misery and horror in it’s wake.
I’d agree with you that US fucked everyone really bad here and is absolutely immoral and wrong in this part of the conflict but Iran is really really fucking bad too and has been for decades.
Just because the US launched one of the stupidest and least planned wars in a century, does not make the Iranian government good.
Just two months ago they were killing thousands of protestors.
The saudi regime is as bad we don’t have any sanction on them. Israel is doing the worst crime in humanity a fucking genocide we don’t have sanctions on the state itself. Any kind of sanctions in the war makes it harder for iran to defend itself for being genocided too. So please stop with your hypocrisy
OK they should be sanctioned too then. Next question?
But there is no sanctions on them though showing canada hypocrisy. Thye are sanctionning iran because it is israel and usa enemies and to make irqn lose so israel can genocide it and do the greater israel project
You’re conflating the topic and build a strawman so bye
Whatsboutism and strawman accusation is hypocrites favourite accusation. It is not a strawman to expose canada selective applications of sanctions and values they pretend to have
It’s a straw man to talk about the other side in a conflict! You can only talk about the state being bombed and invaded, not the states doing the bombing and invasion!
Nope current discussion is social reaction and OP is conflating with government policy - not even remotely the same thing. It’s a bad faith discussion that will go nowhere productive so have a day.
Sounds more like you don’t have an answer to the point that Canada sanctioning one human rights violator while ignoring those it’s allied to.
