Personally I haven’t. While Linux is imperfect, choosing the right distro makes the rest of the experience straightforward. And with it’s whole complexity, I find Linux more user friendly than Windows. Even driver issues, broken shadow file ownership and KDE specifics only made me more confident about my choice to use Linux after I solved everything.


I’m a bit disappointed with packaging/updates. Specifically Arch, I have slow-ish shared internet and didn’t update frequently enough now my system is too outdated (1050Ti, them moving legacy nVidia drivers to AUR is another reason I haven’t updated in a while).
Looking at alternatives.
Void (I still might want something more user-friendly) musl? (but optional and interesting for creating static binaries)
Tumbleweed/Slowroll might be perfect if it weren’t for patterns (and I wish update structure were smarter* than just scheduling).
NixOS is a fun idea but not with declarative desktop settings (I have my own XFWM window theme not uploaded anywhere) and extra mess when it comes to compiling/exporting also running non-packaged executables (especially if I decide to stop using Steam, running what library I can w/o client)
User packaging is also generally questionable, too. I know not to rely on it too much, but I’m also not going to be inspecting package scripts especially not every update.
Other package distribution is a neat idea, but needing to download another graphics driver for Flatpack sort of ruins the point for me (redundant data too). That, and less integration+more manual updates.
* it probably doesn’t exist, but I’d like something that has some sort of awareness of compatibility (be it simple/explicit versioning, build bot troubles, user reports etc). If I haven’t updated in a while, give me a safer update (hold more Major.Minor.newest packages to known-good). If I’m updating regularly, tell me if an update on tuesday might not be great and remind me on friday if it seems better. Let me mark software with some general issues (stability, rendering, features) and alert based on potential fixes.
What are your thoughts on Debian Stable?
It’s not a rolling release, and you’ll need to use Flatpak if you want newer versions of certain apps; unless you’re willing to deal with the Backports repos and their limited level of support, but I think it might be a good fit for your use case.
I’m not sure about about using an older kernel.
I’ve already mentioned having issues with Flatpak’s redundancy*, but I also imagine sandboxing could potentially have other issues too. Specifically I use Godot 4.6+ with bindings for a compiled language. (I haven’t used it thus far, but Godot can potentially have a pipeline from Blender)
So, maybe something like that might be viable with a different package distribution system. I haven’t looked into it though.
* and this could be another nVidia thing with the size of the driver?
EDIT: Hopefully this isn’t too TL;DR. I got a bit carried away writing this response.
Debian Stable uses an LTS kernel, so while it’s based on an older codebase, it still gets regular security updates. You won’t get the most bleeding-edge performance features, but since you’re using an older Nvidia GPU, not being on the bleeding edge might actually be helpful.
I honestly wouldn’t be too concerned about the space used by Flatpak dependencies, unless you have a really small SSD that you’re trying not to use too much space on. If you use a separate home partition, it’s helpful to set up Flathub as a user repo (add --user to the usual install command) so that the space that gets used is on your home partition and not on root.
As far as sandboxing issues go with your development workflow, I’m not super well-informed on that subject, but I know that Flatseal gives you a fair amount of control over what Flatpak applications can access.
I think if Debian Stable has one big caveat, it’s that it’s not the lightest distro, particularly when you’re running it with a full DE and Flatpak applications.
On machines like my Thinkpad X230t or my HP Elitebook 840 G1, EndeavourOS has been noticeably snappier. However, EOS is basically Arch, and I don’t like running Arch on machines I don’t intend to use regularly, since it tends to break when it hasn’t been updated in a long time.
Space is a concern but not the concern, it’s about download time. It’s a considerable price of admission (worse with updates, though maybe not so anymore with legacy). I actually tried Flatpak at one point for Krita, and that is part of why I switched back to native.
Yeah, I’m more worried about backtracking from my current setup (a bit more than half-a-year out-of-date but still newer kernel than Debian stable EDIT: correction). Particularly snappiness, I expect optimizations are a big part of that (CPU is Ryzen 2700, might be more important for that).
Give NixOS another look. It’s no problem to run a declarative system as a base, and plain old dotfiles on top if you want, especially for user stuff. Not sure what you mean by “non-packaged executables” exactly, but I don’t see how NixOS would give you a disadvantage here. Heoric works fine as a Steam alterntative.
I’m not the type to put my dotfiles in git, though. A lot of things I just plan on starting fresh and configuring in-session.
Pre-compiled, non-system binaries.Typically, stuff downloaded from GoG and itch without a client (also the odd thing like BrogueCE). I don’t know if this is always an issue, but it is for anything that uses dynamic linking (checking with
lddis a thing, though can be misleading with runner scripts).I’ve never been interested in the Epic store even for free games. I’m sure there are 10 ways to “solve” this each with their own benefits/drawbacks, but I feel like this is a philosophy issue that creates more problems than it solves for me. And this is without the ability to create static binaries (out of the box) like I’d get with void-linux musl.
That, and seeing talk about how great Nix is but also people having trouble later on too (major updates? bleeding edge woes?).
That’s what I’m saying, you don’t have to! Just install the package (like
neovimor whatever) through NixOS and it will use your ad-hoc dotfiles like it would on any other distro. For a lot of stuff you can make use of declarative NixOS options (programs.neovim = { ... };), but you don’t have to, except for really basic system stuff like networking I guess.Gotcha. There’s several ways do do this on NixOS (
steam-runworks like a charm!), but I’ll concede that there’s an extra step involved here that you don’t have to do on other distros.There’s a learning curve for sure, but I haven’t looked back or experienced any major issues (where I hadn’t shot myself in the foot) since 22.11.
And changes will last on reboot, y’know with the whole immutable thing?
You don’t have to use patterns on Tumbleweed (and maybe Slowroll also?), if you don’t like them. It’s just a handy shortcut to get most, but not all, relevant packages.
It’s annoying (compared to anything similar on Arch) and will reinstall things you’ve removed. There is conflicting information on the best way to deal with this, either way more complicated than ‘off’. It’s a problem that shouldn’t be a problem, and it seems to be a common issue people have.