• lmdnw@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Just because something is illegal, doesn’t make it wrong and just because something is legal, doesn’t make it right. We need more illegal action against those who oppress legally.

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      1 month ago

      Best example: the holocaust was legal, hiding Jews to save their lives was illegal.

  • JasSmith@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago
    1. Calling for the destruction of a nation - be it Palestine or Israel - is calling for genocide.

    2. It should be legal to call for genocide.

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          1 month ago

          What a silly thing to say. Here are a few examples of actual genocidal language:

          Galit Distel Atbaryan (Likud MK, former Public Diplomacy Minister): Called for “erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth” and described the enclave as needing to be “wiped out”.

          Amit Halevi (Likud MK): Stated that the goal of the war is that there is “no more Muslim land in the land of Israel” and suggested leaving Gaza as a “monument, like Sodom”.

          Nissim Vaturi (Deputy Speaker of the Knesset, Likud): Stated in February 2025 that “all adults in Gaza should be killed” and that “the children and women need to be separated and the adults in Gaza eliminated”.

          Boaz Bismuth (Likud MK): Invoked the biblical reference to “erase the memory of Amalek,” a phrase frequently interpreted as a call for the total destruction of an enemy, similar to references made by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

          Ariel Kallner (Likud MK): Urged a “Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of '48,” referencing the 1948 forced displacement of Palestinians.

          Tally Gotliv (Likud MK): Demanded “crushing and flattening Gaza without mercy”. Hnoch Milwidsky (Likud MK): In a 2026 report, was cited as having stated during a debate that “it is legitimate” for soldiers to rape Palestinians.

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      1 month ago

      Are you implying that Australia has freedom of speech enshrined in our laws? Please could you point me to them?

  • Zephorah@discuss.online
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    1 month ago

    Again, why does any country who is not Israel care at all about this? Does Australia have a military base there?

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      Exactly, half these people are bored with nothing better to do and should be working.

      You can tell as they often are a collective with no common goal or objective other than ‘protest’. And it’s causing such division in our society with now a strong anti immigration movement cos people are getting sick of it.

      And in the end everyone loses.

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        If you can get arrested and jailed for wearing a shirt saying “from the river to the sea”, that means your government is suppressing your free speech in service to the genocidal regime of a different country. Even if you don’t care about the genocide, the subversion of your democracy and your civil rights by a foreign power is something that any responsible citizen should be fighting against.

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          1 month ago

          Again so quick to fire you assume that I disagree with you.

          Something to consider though, we do have free speech in this country and its likely and this case (if challenged) will get thrown out. Update edit: she took a caution.

          But also tell me how wearing a t shirt constructively convinces others to share our point of view? Quite the contrary I imagine others who don’t share the same opinion will go ‘avoid this person before they shout at me for having a different point of view’

          And do you know a better way to make a movement in this country than if everyone is able to convince someone else to share (or perhaps just lean closer to) a common opinion/belief. So if instead of pissing off alternative points of view, have an open chat, you might change ppls minds. 1 million voices is better than 100,000 voices, and 25 million voices is better than 1 million. And an open chat is not wearing a tshirt.

          But first people need to actually talk and listen to each other instead of shouting and hating each other.

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        1 month ago

        If the citizens of the countries that can exert some pressure on other genocidal countries do nothing who will?

        Your logic is no different to saying people involved in WW2 should have mind their own businesses unless directly attacked by the Nazis.

        You also fail to recognise that, as history teaches, oppression somewhere in the world can quickly be exported to you country.

        And most importantly, unless you are a soulless person with no sense of empathy, we should care about suffering anywhere in the world.

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          Before you get on your high horse that’s not what I said.

          I said that a lot of these people are protesting without having a common cause on what they are protesting for. And that it is creating deep fractures in our society.

          But don’t let a fact get in the way of your keyboard rage, grab your pitchfork, jump down the throat of anyone who you think is pro Israeli, and make sure to throw in a WW2 or Nazi reference.

          Or perhaps consider that your response is exactly what I was talking about, and it’s this kind of rant that is dividing us.

          I encourage a good discussion, sharing of ideas/opinions, perhaps you’ll change peoples minds but instead you resort to a “you’re wrong and I’m gonna call you names”

          And for the record, I still haven’t said I’m pro war cos I’m not. What I’ve said is I am disappointed in the people in this country with how they have responded to it.

    • Tenderizer@aussie.zone
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      30 days ago

      We have 100,000 Jewish people in Australia, a significant portion of which consider themselves Zionists. Anti-Zionist slogans are something the Jewish population (wrongly) finds threatening and Labor doesn’t have the political space to take the progressive side in every culture war.