You act like a dog chasing its own tail and when you bite down you get excited like you finally caught something that matters. Case in point the article and the rest of the world recognizes China has altered a huge number of Mosques. Your obsession with China raising them (which has happened under the guise of consolidation) is a red hearing you beat to death. It is pathetic.
Once again you try to spin some elaborate conspiracy theory when the reality is China just violates human rights just like every fucking country in the world. You keep repeating the razing statement when that was never the crux of the situation constructing a silly strawman your head.
I show you literal photographic proof China is altering Mosques and you say it isn’t fact. This is so ridiculous I can’t even. Your act completely disingenuous. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously except your band of genocide deniers.
It is clear that China has been closing religious worship sites under the guise of consolidation. I don’t view this as razing mosques myself as there could be legitimate reasons. What matters is China’s long history of cultural erasure since their forced cultural revolution. I don’t buy your excuse that it is a whole new government just like I don’t buy the excuse that the US is not responsible for it’s history of human rights abuses.
Wondering where you get all your propaganda from so I reversed searched some of the garbage you spew and came up with this.
This is what I mean by a dog chasing its own tail. Like a bunch of Spiderman pointing at each other. China has correctly pointed out US human rights violations in the past just as the US as highlighted what China has done. Personally I believe the US is way worse, but that doesn’t excuse China simply because they are objectively not as bad (especially with the projection of power, although China is trying to catch up by providing arms to war torn countries in Africa).
I do appreciate your examination of South Africa. How the persecutors pretend to be the persecuted is a little much. It is refreshing to see you can critical examine this even if you are incapable of doing the same for China. Make no mistake that criticism of the Chinese government is warranted. I have no issues with the Chinese people and I do hope for the best for them.
Yes, you lap up propaganda. There is no doubt. You should feel embarrassed by this discussion. Show me you have the capability of impartiality and talk to me about the MSS and the Chinese surveillance state since you seem to only care about the CIA.
Oh yes, the TIC is strong in China and they are helping to spread it around the world. As the MIC is sunsetted (thank God) the new world order of billionaires that is brought to us by the Chinese and US partnership comes to fruition.
You are so stuck in the past with your thinking it isn’t funny. It is not even about nations anymore as you sit there and cheer your chosen nation like a good campist. I am over the saber rattling between these partner nations, but you keep falling for it like a hooked fish.
Your obsession with China raising them (which has happened under the guise of consolidation) is a red hearing you beat to death.
That is but one example. That was the very first thread I pulled, the first example I looked at, it’s hardly an obsession.
You keep repeating the razing statement when that was never the crux of the situation constructing a silly strawman your head.
Yeah the exact facts never seem to be the crux of the situation, just the overall vibe of “china bad”. You can debunk 100 things and people will find 1000 other allegations that they believe.
I show you literal photographic proof China is altering Mosques and you say it isn’t fact.
I never said that. I doubt it’s for nefarious purposes. Case in point, I believe that the plaque at the kashgar id kah mosque got removed, but not because it a danger for the chinese state but rather for renovation purposes. I believe that the gatehouse that was built in 1997 was demolished, I don’t believe that the entire mosque was. I think these embellished half-truths are really insidious and need to be fact-checked. Are the alterations for nefarious purposes or simply restorations from a building boom in the 1980s and 1990s that was notorious for cheapening out on materials? I believe I read that tidbit somewhere in those western-aligned sources you love to the exclusion of all else, but don’t care to go back and check.
What matters is China’s long history of cultural erasure since their forced cultural revolution.
Really? Because a lot of the mosques and sites that are under renovation now were built after 1980 I believe, for the reason above.
Wondering where you get all your propaganda from so I reversed searched some of the garbage you spew and came up with this.
oh I thought I had linked that, my bad. I usually do that when giving verbatim citations. Well that’s what I came up with when I tried to look up the fate of the kashgar id kah mosque’s plaque. I really dislike your “kill the messenger approach” here as you would say. It’s possible that they are telling the truth even though you think they are untrustworthy wouldn’t you agree?
I do appreciate your examination of South Africa. How the persecutors pretend to be the persecuted is a little much. It is refreshing to see you can critical examine this even if you are incapable of doing the same for China.
Yeah it just seems like a certain government has a penchant for frivolous genocide allegations tbh.
You know, it’s kinda cute to see what I looked like not even 3 years ago. Which is why I have unduly spent so much time on you I think, you talk and do things exactly as I would’ve so I can’t really be mad at you. I don’t know if you really are this stupid or why you keep mischaracterizing what I say, or make weird assumptions about my motivations, but your undue arrogance sure doesn’t paint a very favorable light. Probably a lot of stuff in your personal life rests on this type of propaganda, you mentioned you worked with Amnesty International before so it’s probably harder for you to take a step back and consider that all of this might just be propaganda. Try talking more in terms of falsifiable claims that you personally believe and argue them. Not general claims like “thousands of mosques are getting destroyed!!11” but this specific thing has occured and here’s the proof.
Lastly it just seems like a really weird thing for the chinese government to do? Like what’s the logic here
You act like a dog chasing its own tail and when you bite down you get excited like you finally caught something that matters. Case in point the article and the rest of the world recognizes China has altered a huge number of Mosques. Your obsession with China raising them (which has happened under the guise of consolidation) is a red hearing you beat to death. It is pathetic.
Once again you try to spin some elaborate conspiracy theory when the reality is China just violates human rights just like every fucking country in the world. You keep repeating the razing statement when that was never the crux of the situation constructing a silly strawman your head.
I show you literal photographic proof China is altering Mosques and you say it isn’t fact. This is so ridiculous I can’t even. Your act completely disingenuous. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously except your band of genocide deniers.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/22/china-mosques-shuttered-razed-altered-muslim-areas
It is clear that China has been closing religious worship sites under the guise of consolidation. I don’t view this as razing mosques myself as there could be legitimate reasons. What matters is China’s long history of cultural erasure since their forced cultural revolution. I don’t buy your excuse that it is a whole new government just like I don’t buy the excuse that the US is not responsible for it’s history of human rights abuses.
Wondering where you get all your propaganda from so I reversed searched some of the garbage you spew and came up with this.
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202011/17/WS5fb30a8aa31024ad0ba9477a_3.html
Oh yes the Imperialist West and everything else you have said word for word, meanwhile China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_imperialism
This is what I mean by a dog chasing its own tail. Like a bunch of Spiderman pointing at each other. China has correctly pointed out US human rights violations in the past just as the US as highlighted what China has done. Personally I believe the US is way worse, but that doesn’t excuse China simply because they are objectively not as bad (especially with the projection of power, although China is trying to catch up by providing arms to war torn countries in Africa).
I do appreciate your examination of South Africa. How the persecutors pretend to be the persecuted is a little much. It is refreshing to see you can critical examine this even if you are incapable of doing the same for China. Make no mistake that criticism of the Chinese government is warranted. I have no issues with the Chinese people and I do hope for the best for them.
Yes, you lap up propaganda. There is no doubt. You should feel embarrassed by this discussion. Show me you have the capability of impartiality and talk to me about the MSS and the Chinese surveillance state since you seem to only care about the CIA.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/05/01/chinas-algorithms-repression/reverse-engineering-xinjiang-police-mass
Oh yes, the TIC is strong in China and they are helping to spread it around the world. As the MIC is sunsetted (thank God) the new world order of billionaires that is brought to us by the Chinese and US partnership comes to fruition.
You are so stuck in the past with your thinking it isn’t funny. It is not even about nations anymore as you sit there and cheer your chosen nation like a good campist. I am over the saber rattling between these partner nations, but you keep falling for it like a hooked fish.
That is but one example. That was the very first thread I pulled, the first example I looked at, it’s hardly an obsession.
Yeah the exact facts never seem to be the crux of the situation, just the overall vibe of “china bad”. You can debunk 100 things and people will find 1000 other allegations that they believe.
I never said that. I doubt it’s for nefarious purposes. Case in point, I believe that the plaque at the kashgar id kah mosque got removed, but not because it a danger for the chinese state but rather for renovation purposes. I believe that the gatehouse that was built in 1997 was demolished, I don’t believe that the entire mosque was. I think these embellished half-truths are really insidious and need to be fact-checked. Are the alterations for nefarious purposes or simply restorations from a building boom in the 1980s and 1990s that was notorious for cheapening out on materials? I believe I read that tidbit somewhere in those western-aligned sources you love to the exclusion of all else, but don’t care to go back and check.
Really? Because a lot of the mosques and sites that are under renovation now were built after 1980 I believe, for the reason above.
oh I thought I had linked that, my bad. I usually do that when giving verbatim citations. Well that’s what I came up with when I tried to look up the fate of the kashgar id kah mosque’s plaque. I really dislike your “kill the messenger approach” here as you would say. It’s possible that they are telling the truth even though you think they are untrustworthy wouldn’t you agree?
Yeah it just seems like a certain government has a penchant for frivolous genocide allegations tbh.
You know, it’s kinda cute to see what I looked like not even 3 years ago. Which is why I have unduly spent so much time on you I think, you talk and do things exactly as I would’ve so I can’t really be mad at you. I don’t know if you really are this stupid or why you keep mischaracterizing what I say, or make weird assumptions about my motivations, but your undue arrogance sure doesn’t paint a very favorable light. Probably a lot of stuff in your personal life rests on this type of propaganda, you mentioned you worked with Amnesty International before so it’s probably harder for you to take a step back and consider that all of this might just be propaganda. Try talking more in terms of falsifiable claims that you personally believe and argue them. Not general claims like “thousands of mosques are getting destroyed!!11” but this specific thing has occured and here’s the proof.
Lastly it just seems like a really weird thing for the chinese government to do? Like what’s the logic here
Also https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/