• bss03@infosec.pub
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      7 days ago

      I don’t think objects without a subjective experience need to give or are capable of giving consent. I don’t think anyone needs to ask their fleshlight for consent, e.g.

      If it were a living deer, then it would need to give consent but be unable to. (I think it’s reasonable to say any supposed communications from the deer is less trustworthy than “Facilitated Communication”, and not sufficient consent.)

    • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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      8 days ago

      Douglas Adams actually explored this. In The Restaurant at The End of the Universe, Arthur is waited upon by a sentient bovine creature whose species wants to be eaten and spend their lives conditioning themselves to be as succulent as possible.

      Arthur was preeetty fuckin weirded out by that.

      • GutterRat42@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Yeah, is it consent if you are genetically forced to be consenting?

        I loved that part of the book, fellow hitchhiker.

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          7 days ago

          Is it consent if everything is deterministic and free will is an illusion???

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          8 days ago

          genetically forced

          Dude is deep as the 10th circle of hell.

          Cuz like are they forced? They were spawned by the infinitely possible universe. Implying that free will itself is fundamentally constrained by biology, or perhaps the deterministic nature of the universe itself.

          It reminds me of the lyrics,

          Are we not good enough?

          Are we not brave enough?

          Is the violence in our nature

          Just the image of our maker?

    • r1veRRR@feddit.org
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      7 days ago

      I mean, it’s not like we care about consent when it comes to the animals we eat, or whose secretions we drink. Weird to draw the line at sex/rape, but not at killing/murder.