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    7 days ago

    I remember when all this came out. Came out with the stuff about the Russian’s doing the same thing. Which if they called that the Russia hoax, and Russia was shown to be much more effective at it, what do we call this?

    The research showed that the Chinese propoganda machine was super ineffective on American politics, but very effective on ethnically and nationally Chinese people, which is why they now have police stations all over the world which can capture and extradite Chinese people and Chinese national Uighars around the world.

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          6 days ago

          In Montreal, not New York City, or France:

          https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/two-arrested-operating-illegal-overseas-police-station-chinese-government

          As alleged in the complaint, Lu and Chen are charged with conspiring to act as agents of the PRC government as well as obstructing justice by destroying evidence of their communications with an MPS official. The defendants worked together to establish the first overseas police station in the United States on behalf of the Fuzhou branch of the MPS. The police station – which closed in the fall of 2022 after those operating it became aware of the FBI’s investigation – occupied a floor in an office building in Manhattan’s Chinatown. While acting under the direction and control of an MPS Official, Lu and Chen helped open and operate the clandestine police station. None of the participants in the scheme informed the U.S. government that they were helping the PRC government surreptitiously open and operate an illegal MPS police station on U.S. soil.

          “The PRC, through its repressive security apparatus, established a secret physical presence in New York City to monitor and intimidate dissidents and those critical of its government,” said Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen of the Justice Department’s National Security Division. “The PRC’s actions go far beyond the bounds of acceptable nation-state conduct. We will resolutely defend the freedoms of all those living in our country from the threat of authoritarian repression.”

          https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2026/06/18/france-shuts-down-clandestine-chinese-police-stations-operating-on-its-territory_6754608_7.html

          “Since early 2026, French counterintelligence services have dismantled nine clandestine structures operating in France under the direction of China’s Ministry of Public Security. The sites were notably used to track down dissidents.”

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              6 days ago

              “Monday, April 17, 2023”

              Who was President in 2023? 😉

              Citing the arrest documents of Chinese nationals operating an illegal police station to intimidate dissidents, thoroughly disproving your “debunked” link from a different city and country.

              Take the “L”, move on, and don’t report comments you disagree with when they are materially factual.

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                6 days ago

                Who was President in 2023?

                A billionaire pedophile sex trafficking rapist??

                I dunno what you think this is proof of lol, most of your government is in the Epstein files??

                The fuck?

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                  6 days ago

                  No, it’s proof you think Trump was President a year before he was relected and 2 years before he was actually President.

                  Have you considered changing your username to “confidentlywrong” instead of “Nonconfrontational”?

                  DEFINITELY more on brand.

                  Again, you lose sir, I award you no points.

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        6 days ago

        On which, that the Chinese effort wasn’t as effective on the general American populace as the Russian campaign, or the Chinese police stations? For the latter it’s related to the Safeguard report release in 2016 of which multiple governments confirmed the grand diaspora government program had created hundreds of non embassy 'service stations" that just happened to be related to credible reports of tracking and intimidation. Of which a dude was just convicted in the US for, when they went after him, him and his partner started burning shit like they were a Russian embassy.

        Or the ineffective but present propoganda efforts by the prc that resulted in multiple news agencies being required to register as foreign agents in 2018 and an increase in IRA style social media campaigns around the covid pandemic.

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            6 days ago

            Always take it with a grain of salt! Don’t gotta trust us American pig dogs too much, you got French, English, German, Dutch. Man you name it they got it on the creepy NGO Chinese police “service stations”.

            None of this is to say the Americans don’t do the same shit and worse, the American government mad at foreign interference by Chinese and Russians is like the fucking Spiderman meme.

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                    The mounties right, dudley do right? Where’s the RCMP report this Canadian senator is talking about. Just because the Canadian investigation didn’t rise to criminality, but what did the Canadian investigation say, do the RCMP stand by doing the investigation in the first place?

                    A commentary by one senator as the only positive thing you can say is pretty weak.