Yesterday it kinda hit me that the feed left a lot more “reddit-y” suddenly. More american politics for one.
There is a also aspecific thing that alerted me: Sudden appearance of this pattern plagueing reddit where a post about some bad muslim person escalates into edgy atheism which is also kinda racist and lowkey fascist in a very specific way.
I don’t have a lot of empiric evidence, just the vibe seems to have shifted.
I’ve seen more pedantic bad-faith comments recently. I don’t know if there are more, or if I’m just more aware of them.
there are. it’s angry weirdos who want to flood lemmy with their miserable stupid views.
a few of them have multiple accounts on multiple instances so they can spam their crappy posts and comments.
several people on my block list, are the same username at different instances, and with the same post histories.
and they are super hostile if you call them out, and will report you for ‘harassment’. Meanwhile they are harassing the fediverse pushing their ‘truth’. Usually some flavor of doomerism about how every thing is always awful and this is the worst time to be alive ever. and if you try to counterpoint them, especially with evidence, they will insult, threaten you, and report you for harassment.
it’s interesting, because yeah there are other users who post less, whose comments/posts are far more diverse in content, tone, and communities, but well you won’t notice them as much because they aren’t making 100s of comments and dozens of posts a day, repeating the same miserable talking points ad nauseam, usually in one liners where they harass and insult anyone they perceive as a threat to their views.
Not recently or suddenly, no, but I also go out of my way to shovel that shit away from the “front page” in much the same way you’d feel about shovelling shitty slushy snow at the ass end of winter. It is inherently a Reddit knockoff populated mostly with people who either are politically opposed “enough” to Reddit to actually do something about it, people who got banned, or both. A large proportion of the activity here is bot posts, from Reddit. It follows that shit’s going to be… reddit-y.
To address the political spam firehose, look into making adblocker filters based around the obvious keywords, I’ve been planning to do that for a while since Lemmy, rather conspicuously, only lets you block things in ways that suck. Worse than discord, over here.
I haven’t noticed but I tend to stay in my subs.
About your facist comment.
Are you saying 1. Claiming a Muslim person can be bad is facist. Or 2. Are you saying being an Atheist is facist?
Neither. It’s the way that is used in some subreddits to propagate fascistic ideas in a veil of common sense and atheism. I am seeing a pattern of escalation beyonf what was resonable from.the original post
Thanks for the clarification…
You can take the user out of reddit etc
And my axe!
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I only noticed there being even more political posts than usual, but their topic has not really changed, there’s just more of it.
I came back here after a long time and i had the same feeling. I think has more to do with the level of the discussion at large nowadays, more than the platform itself.
oh, sorry you mean insulting, harassing, and threatening other users when the counterpoint your comments isn’t a ‘high level’ of discussion?
About the fascism thing: That’s how this place always was. It’s particularly obvious on European instances (at least from the perspective of this 2023 Reddit refugee).
People are people. My interactions on here have been largely the same as on Reddit, and on Reddit largely the same as on forums before that. Lemmy was and still is niche, so only a specific subset of people would’ve interacted here. That changes as more and more people arrive here.
Yup, but you can always decamp to other instances and other places. Once you’ve made the transition from Reddit to Lemmy, there’s much less friction transiting to your next watering hole.
I agree that people seem to be the same everywhere; the problem with reddit is that there get to be SO many people there that
a) moderation suffers b) you need upvotes in order to be VISIBLE–this has some nasty knock-on effects.
As Agent K says, “a person is smart; people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.”
All the smarmy boasting about the superiority of the lemmy style and its users is, as far as I can tell, mostly masturbation. It is better than reddit solely because it is less populated, because I can write a comment on a day old post and still get replies for a week, because I have to be careful not to be to total and complete of a flaming asshole because it wouldn’t take many people putting me on their blocklist to make me invisible, etc…
People are people.
A lower percentage of them are people on Reddit and unfortunately that percentage is dropping here also. (We have bots posting weird questions to the question communities for example)
Reddit is a decent measure of people on the Internet in general. At least, Western people. Asia has its own forums.
Reddit has abdorbed some of the most technical and the most stupid people there are. The most kind abd the most fascist. It’s a statistical inevitability for a jack-of-all-trades platform.
There’s a bunch of new accounts posting chatbot slop, a lot specifically on this comm. Luckily when you point them out the mods do see to it.
As for the comms themselves that are made for slop like “c/woahthatsheckingcrazydude”, yeah you’ll have to get used to filtering those
I came from reddit 2 or 3 years ago now and i think most others are the same. Idk about all of a sudden. Its had the same undertones for a while now if you ask me and i think it grows along with the more people that join. As for politics I got tired of that the year before the last election. I invested some time into filters with certain words. Some stuff still slips by, but i am fine with seeing a few things.
Personally I can’t wait for more of that, the one thing this place lacks is the smaller unique communities that bring a lot of great obscure information to the table.
100% of the users here are reddit refugees. I don’t know why anyone would assume the vibe of the platform to be any different. In many ways this place even manages to out-reddit reddit.
Its a very narrow dpgraphic of reddit users though, of course it’s going to be different, not necessarily better.
I’ve been here for a few years. There are waves of them. If something bad’s happened over there, or some federation post has gotten a lot of attention, and a bunch of users migrate, this place is more Reddit-like for a couple of weeks until they either get accustomed or go back.
The “car guys” thread where people are talking about “nice exhaust” and “connection to the vehicle” definitely gives off reddit vibes. Even Facebook vibes tbh.
There are probably fewer than 10% of leftists in the West overall, even fewer in America, and for anyone outside of the West being a “leftist” just means having a modicum of humanity and caring about justice. Any Anglo site will inevitably be filled with average Anglos, and the average Anglo man is, well, you know. Just be happy they’re not a majority here, not yet at least. 🤷♂️
