Gee, I wonder what the far-right thinks about letting leftists speak freely?
The conflation between a chud using mullvad vs using the profits from mullvad to fund a political party… Tf
We have nurtured a culture of radical tolerance.
Some people have nurtured a radical intolerance against funding right extremism.
Y’all are honestly crazy to grill Mullvad for some dudes behavior. He doesn’t even work at the company. And they’re basically saying, “we aren’t the thought police. What he donated to isn’t what we stand for he made that decision as his own person using his own free will”
And you guys are like “FUCK THEM”
Insane. Go ahead and use other VPNs that have never had their headquarters raided and PROVEN not to keep logs.
Does anyone know of a single other VPN company still owned by the original team that has done that? Roll the dice on the trustworthiness of your VPN if that’s something you’re comfortable with, your choice.
Yeah, like its not like the product is bad, it’s the best product on the market. Ruling out Mullvad here is simply a boycott.
To be honest, the current government coalition is worse than Örebropartiet. Sverigedemokraterna are nazis too, and they fund disinformation campaigns across the internet and take away internet and IRL privacy. The conservatives’ immigration minister’s son is literally in a brownshirt gang. If you’re going to boycott Mullvad over this, you might as well boycott all of Sweden.
He doesn’t even work at the company
He does, he’s the CEO.
And you guys are like “FUCK THEM”
I think people just don’t want their money being used to fund far right extremism. As is their right.
I mean shit my tax dollars fund evil every single day and the only company I know of that will actually keep me semi safe from my government is mullvad.
I just wish some other VPN service got raided like that and then I could comfortably switch but I’m way too paranoid for that I want a proven track record.
You’re legally obligated to pay taxes and you have some say in how they’re spent in the form of state and federal elections (or your country’s equivalent). If you’re doing everything in your power to make sure that money isn’t used for evil then ultimately you can’t be faulted for what happens beyond that point.
But on the other hand you’re voluntarily choosing to pay Mullvad knowing full well that your money will be used to prop up far right extremism and you have no say in it beyond your choice to give them your money.
How you rationalize that to yourself is a personal matter but it certainly and absolutely does not give you a moral high ground over people who choose not to fund evil.
Both are non negotiable for me. I don’t want my countries taxagwncy to steal my shit and throw me in prison for non compliance.
I also don’t whatever surveillance company the same government is using tracking my movements and habits like I’m a terrorist for my anti fascist viewpoints among other things. So in that way, I also can’t compromise on the only vpn service that’s been proven by police involvement not to keep logs despite if the owner is an asshole or not.
I guess the mods can remove this comment too for whatever reason (ah, its an .ml) but I am still allowed to have an opinion. Fair on not having the high ground though I’m unwilling to compromise on my privacy even for the greater good of this situation so it seems.
Not gonna give them a single cent from now on.
Damn the radical woke left with their impossibly high expectation of basic human decency.
We have nurtured a culture of radical tolerance. Even when some in our sphere of collaborators have advocated for actors and views that have personally and severely affected the founders and their family members, this has not stood in the way of cooperation.
The leopards that ate other people’s faces will definitely not eat my face too
What are the odds that the others are closeted fascists as well? UK the kind
we don’t agree with the right wingers but immigration is an issue and only they are addressing it, so I’ll keep to myself and not speak much
vpn company be normal for 1 second challenge [impossible]
Most predictable response ever. Some shite about the free market of ideas and some other shite about the need to engage with “ideas you personally dislike”.
In other words, we should give fascists a seat at the table and hope we can debate them away. Been there done that, doesn’t work.
I don’t expect a company to just condemn fascism completely unprompted. But in a situation like this, if you can’t even commit to taking action to ensure that a fascist party does not receive any of your funding again, then your mission isn’t worth shit.
I’m sure that the people who would be forcibly “remigrated” by this particular political party would not feel very free from authority and surveillance.
Self-censorship out of fear is an even bigger dampener than direct censorship.
Man, I hate having to think about the effects of my actions before I do something. It’s so much better to just do things, and then see if there are consequences.
/s
Wow I didn’t hate them before, but thanks to this post I stand corrected
I’ve read the blog of the other guy… What a mutilation of marxism…
Its easy, just let racism blind you and kick immigrants out of the working class.
To be fair the 30 hour work week is a campaign promise from the real socialist parties in Sweden
What’s not to love, they simply want a national version of socialism. I’m sure that’s never come up before.
Not even that. They straight up endorse capitalism over public work.
It’s like national liberal socialism
And he called himself an anarchist when he’s a textbook example of social darwinist, Armstrong type even. My anarchist brothers and sisters, when will you step up to not let them take the brand and banners of your hands?
I really had no desire to get invested into this, but since this gets in my feed so frequently, here we go. I’ve read relevant posts on Daniel Berntsson’s blog, i.e. the individual which this should really concern; instead of Mullvad as a whole. I understand the donated money possibly came from Mullvad subscribers, and if that leads you to unsubscribe, by all means do so; but stop bugging the rest of us.
It seems he donated to ÖP because they criticize excessive taxation, that is believed to typically end up enriching an (upper-)middle class (the “transferiat”), that gain additional support for (self-serving) policies, from lower (working) classes that are dependent on (welfare) subsidies. And given that immigrants are typically of the latter class, it’s believed to further reinforce the transferiat’s position: by a growing dependent class voting in favor of pro-transferiat policy.
This isn’t to say he agrees with (stricter) immigration policy, nor with the other positions taken by ÖP, or any other political party for that matter. Instead, he adheres to a “libertarian anarchist” ideal, where “people can … organically and voluntarily federate together at any scale”. Rather than states appropriating capital from citizens, to only partially redistribute effectively in the form of common goods, which involves protection thereof through immigration policies for example; often to the detriment of people, including him personally.
This isn’t to say he agrees with (stricter) immigration policy, nor with the other positions taken by ÖP, or any other political party for that matter.
He basically IS that party’s budget. His donation was like 80% or 90% of their total donations. I’d think if I basically owned a political party I’d try to make sure they don’t do shit I don’t disagree with.
I belief it’s morally wrong to do that, both from the perspective of the donor and party: as people democratically voted to land the party the low number of seats it has. If a donor could just dictate party policy, you’re disregarding the promise made to the voter. For such an insignificant party it’s likely to give them additional budget for campaigning, so they might have a better chance at competing with the seated opposition. I would respect him if he didn’t, but perhaps he’s able to influence party policy over time; instead of having to fight the uphill battle to get into parliament with a party of his own.
Pretty tone def whinging about cancel culture.
It is so shocking to me that people trust these businesses at all and believe that you gain privacy by paying someone to centralize all your internet traffic thru their servers. Conceptually this doesn’t make sense. You have no actual verification that they don’t log, port mirror or honey pot. Even if they don’t now you have no guarantee they aren’t going to one day flip the switch and turn it on or sell their business to someone who will.
Hey I made a big reply about this to someone else a while back but if you trust the news and what the police say then mullvad is safe.
A long time ago they had port forwarding and pedophiles were allegedly using it to trade csam back and forth. Interpol got together with Swedish cops and did a warrant raid and came back empty handed. They had every legal ability to record user data and wiretap the servers but were unable to. Eventually Interpol pressured cdns and major providers to blacklist mullvad servers and rather than give up user information mullvad stopped offering port forwarding. A lot of people left them because of it.
If you don’t trust what the cops say or what mullvad does then you still gotta see mullvad as safe.
Why would the police put pressure on cdns to drop mullvad traffic if it’s a honeypot? That doesn’t make sense. If it’s a honeypot then why would mullvad drop port forwarding and lose tons of customers who rely on it for piracy? That also doesn’t make sense.
As far as why anyone would ever pay a company to act as a proxy vpn, it’s to anonymize the traffic. Some vpn companies don’t have “accounts” with username (tied to email) and passwords, it’s just one secret, the account number. They might also take anonymous cash payment as well. In that case they can’t really do anything to give you up because they don’t know who you are.
Like anything else it’s a negotiation of what degree of trust you accept. Many small metal shops around here are run out of a commercial type building next to the owners house. My favorite small fabricator is in a little building nowhere near his house (I found out because the neighbors dog was running loose and came up to get a pet and said “is this your dog?” And he said “I don’t even live on this road”). If you trust the people you do business with to not bother you at home then there’s no problem with them knowing your home address. If they never know it to begin with then you don’t need to consider or accept that level of trust.
“aren’t we living in a multicultural democracy, why can’t the minorities and the racists just get along and be respectful of each others’ ideas”
Absolutely pathetic response. I’m less likely to use them now than before I read this
Sorry, but where are you quoting from? It seems to be neither from mullvad’s last post, nor from the linked blog of Daniel Berntsson.
It’s a (butchered) joke from Peep Show, but I feel it captures the gist of the statement linked to by OP
