Israel may be less than 80 years old but there have been Jewish people’s living in the region for millennia. They even predate Christians and Muslims.
Practically though once you start having multiple generations of people growing up in the area just deporting everyone becomes impossible. The state is ~10 million people. Where would they all go?
The solution has to be finding an accommodation that allows everyone in the area to live in peace. Or they can just keep trying to genocide each other and see how that works out but I think that’s just going to result in even more misery all round.
I’m not sure I’d describe a state with nearly 30% non-Jewish citizens as an ethnostate. Jews in other middle eastern states don’t often have the same rights as their fellow citizens.
Yes, there were native jews. From what I’ve read there was never a conflict there. The problem came when foreign jews came to settle explicitly to build a jewish state and supplant the local population. They do want an ethnostate. Look at the words and actions of people like Smotrich, Ben-Gvir or go even further back to Herzl, founder of zionism.
I do agree that it’s impractical and immoral to mass expel jews that have settled in Israel for a few generations now; those that are still settling could return to their countries of origin. I do also agree that the only just way forward has to include jews and Palestinians finding some peace living together. I can’t speak for the OP but when I hear the phrase “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” this is what I understand. Whether you call it Israel, Palestine or something else it cannot continue to exist as a Jewish state. It should grant equal rights and respect to all its citizens. Getting there from where they are now will not be easy but we could start with addressing the international Israel lobby.
Israel may be less than 80 years old but there have been Jewish people’s living in the region for millennia. They even predate Christians and Muslims.
Practically though once you start having multiple generations of people growing up in the area just deporting everyone becomes impossible. The state is ~10 million people. Where would they all go?
The solution has to be finding an accommodation that allows everyone in the area to live in peace. Or they can just keep trying to genocide each other and see how that works out but I think that’s just going to result in even more misery all round.
I’m not sure I’d describe a state with nearly 30% non-Jewish citizens as an ethnostate. Jews in other middle eastern states don’t often have the same rights as their fellow citizens.
Yes, there were native jews. From what I’ve read there was never a conflict there. The problem came when foreign jews came to settle explicitly to build a jewish state and supplant the local population. They do want an ethnostate. Look at the words and actions of people like Smotrich, Ben-Gvir or go even further back to Herzl, founder of zionism.
I do agree that it’s impractical and immoral to mass expel jews that have settled in Israel for a few generations now; those that are still settling could return to their countries of origin. I do also agree that the only just way forward has to include jews and Palestinians finding some peace living together. I can’t speak for the OP but when I hear the phrase “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” this is what I understand. Whether you call it Israel, Palestine or something else it cannot continue to exist as a Jewish state. It should grant equal rights and respect to all its citizens. Getting there from where they are now will not be easy but we could start with addressing the international Israel lobby.