What auth apps do you use ive seen authelia, authentik, keycloack but whats overall the best
I use kanidm because the footprint is lower than the alternatives you mention, and it’s written in Rust.
I use authentik. It’s probably fairly easy to set up if you use their docker-compose, but I run it as rootless podman, which took a little work to get it converted to a quadlet pod. But now that it’s set up, it works great and handles a variety of self-hosted apps that use saml, oidc, ldap, and forward-auth. It’s one of the few options that handles all the different authentication types natively. I also set up passkeys and standard two-factor time codes.
There are some very helpful authentik youtube tutorials by Cooptonian.
Would you be willing to share that Quadlet? I also run rootless Podman on my main VPS and I’m approaching that point where I have enough services to justify a dedicated IDM solution.
I love authentik
Now it needs no middleware. Just authentik and postgres
The ui is great, features are great, great api. Super easy to self host and manage
Open source, small dedicated team. Can’t ask for more
Its really stange seeing kanidm basically never mentioned in these types of threads dispite how perfect it is for selfhosting: great documentation, incredibly easy to get setup, easy to make a custom themed/setup auth page, lets users name themselves how they prefer instead of requiring “firstname lastname” (why does every service need a lastname when it never gets used?)
Authelia and authentik are cool but are way more complex then you need for authenticating a couple services and for me at least feel “bloated” for my usecase
Its really stange seeing kanidm basically never mentioned in these types of threads
I think the no-nonsense, minimal hype and visual contribute to that. Also, the name didn’t automatically conjure “authentication” like authentik/authelia/pocket-id does, so maybe people just gloss over it.
I’ll probably tried this over now that I’m aware. Thanks for sharing.
Developer of VoidAuth here; if you decide to give it a try let me know if you run into any issues during setup, or have any feedback!
I did try it out and its great!
I have been loving it so far and got immich and going to add others and under it soon.
I use Stratum on android and GNOME Authenticator on Linux desktop
Same. I tried a few other options from F-Droid/Droidify and Aegis was the easiest for me.
I think OP means server side auth apps
I’ll second Pocket-ID.
I originally had Authentik setup. It worked well enough. However, their packaging constantly broke and no-one seemed to care.
Switched to Pocket-ID and won’t be looking back. Passkey-based OAuth was all I wanted anyways. (Also, the logins themselves are noticeably faster!)
I would third this. I only came across pocket id a few days ago and hooked it up to a few containers for testing and it’s really impressed me.
Authentik
I like Ente, and according to their docs you can spin up your own host.
I used authentik first as it was suggested by a friend with whom we are sharing the vps, and so I kept using that also for another personal vps.
It is a good combination of robustness and flexibility for me, plus we needed a user dashboard or at least a list of apps. Custom workflows, blueprints and stuff were a bit of a pain to understand, so I just copy them between the two install I have because I keep forgetting how everything works. It’s also quite resource-heavy, so I might try something different in the future.
“The best” depends on what you really need.
Authentik and Authelia are two of the top most quoted solutions, but they aim to be an “everything in one” package, with tons of features a simple homelab will rarely need. They’re aimed more at enterprise-like setups.
On the other end of the spectrum you have e.g. Pocket-ID, which only does OIDC by itself (you can hook up an LDAP server as user database though); but that tradeoff means it uses little to no CPU time, and, in my experience, around 130MB RAM. Given RAM is getting more expensive than gold, one needs to consider memory footprint, especially for older homelab setups. We can’t all be running 256GB nodes after all.
So instead of hunting the mythical “best” solution, decide what features you really need, grab a list of providers that cover those features, and compare them to see what fits your needs best.
I use my Nextcloud instance as a OIDC provider for all my other apps.
Authentik is great, super versatile, if not a bit of effort to get it set up initially
The best is pretty subjective and partially relies on what you need.
Keycloak is one of the most feature complete ones I think.
I’ve used authelia before and liked it, but it had a very bare UI and everything was done through config files which forced redeploys on changes. It wasn’t ideal for me.
I’m currently trying out voidauth. It’s got some more Ui features compared to authelia and can apparently also simulate some Active Directory queries to forward your users to third party tools for provisioning ( unless I saw that wrong, I haven’t tested any yet ).
Authentik looked nice, but I haven’t gotten around to checking that one out yet.
