For those of you who are using linux: Are you using secure boot? I.e. is your bootloader configured to only decrypt your disk and boot your OS, while blocking all “booting from USB stick” and such?

I’m asking because i’m considering a very specific attack vector, through which a sufficiently skilled agent (e.g. FBI, CIA) could install a keylogger into your OS and get access to your sensitive data that way, even when your disk is encrypted and without your knowledge.

  • 4grams@awful.systems
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    12 hours ago

    No, everything I have is connected to the internet anyway so has far more easily compromised vectors. If I had any data sensitive enough I would not trust any security other than physical with it. I assume with physical access, a motivated enough attacker could gain access, there’s loopholes in everything.

    So, if I had that sort of data, it would be on an offline machine, no wireless, never connected to a network. I would only trust it in so far as I could guarantee I am the only one who can access it.

  • Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml
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    13 hours ago

    I am but with self enrolled keys. People wildly misunderstand secure boot, it’s more for kernel/boot level malware and so it can be used with module signing.

  • Lucy :3@feddit.org
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    14 hours ago

    Configured it successfully on my Laptop, then bricked my PCs MB trying to configure it on that. Never tried again. After all, it only works for you if you trust the closed source UEFI anyway. If you want actual security, desolder the flash chip

  • Libb@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    no. Full disk encryption is enough to protect my privacy from anyone stealing my computer/disks, it’s what matters to me.

    If some secret agency want to access said data, they would just need to ask me, with a smile and a nice warrant. At least here in France, not complying is severely punished.

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    2 days ago

    If someone can plant a camera somewhere that they can see your keyboard, they can probably obtain your password.

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    2 days ago

    Nope. Things break on my system when it gets turned on. I just updated the BIOS last week, which somehow resulted in it getting turned back on. That silently broke my graphics card driver and it took me like an hour to figure out what was going on since there was no obvious error message.

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    2 days ago

    A partial solution to this evil-maid attack vector is Heads firmware (a replacement for the bios/uefi itself), which lets you sign the contents of your unencrypted boot partition using a gpg key on a hardware token, and verify the integrity of the firmware itself using a totp/hotp key stored in the tpm.

    All the benefits of secure boot, but you get to control the signing keys yourself instead of relying on a vendor. It’s great stuff.

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      2 days ago

      If it’s a state level actor it probably won’t make a difference if they’ve had physical access to the device.

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    2 days ago

    Well, I’m running Asahi Linux on a Macbook which can’t boot from USB even if I wanted to.

    However, if you’re really worried about state-level threat actors, like FBI or CIA, I don’t believe there is much you could do to protect yourself anyway. They likely have entire catalogs of unpublished and undisclosed side-band attack exploits they could draw from to gain access to your machine and execute a privilege escalation to install whatever they want.

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    2 days ago

    I don’t see it as necessary. I have full disk encryption set up, which is sufficient to protect my data at rest. Even if I had secure boot set up, a sufficiently skilled agent could physically install a USB sniffer in my keyboard, flash a malicious BIOS to my motherboard, or just install a hidden camera to watch me type my password. And many TPMs have vulnerabilities that I’m sure government agencies are able to exploit.

  • queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    I’ll enable FDE during the install for systems with sensitive data, but I don’t bother with secure boot. If I were deploying machines in unsecured areas (i.e. not my house) that also had sensitive data on board, I might look into it.

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    2 days ago

    Keep your OS updated, make regular backups, use full-disk-encryption, and nuke and pave whenever things get cluttery. You’ll be alright.

    Were it me and I just went through a TSA screening and they took it and returned,… I may nuke the laptop.

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      2 days ago

      If I had that sort of threat model and let the government get their hands on my computer, I would never trust the hardware again. Too many components with their own SoCs containing firmware blobs where an exploit could lurk and reinfect even after a ‘nuke.’ GPUs, disk controllers, WiFi chips, etc.

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        2 days ago

        Good thinking, shoot it with a 12ga slug.

        but seriously, time and sense are a factor there. A few seconds? In front of me? I’d waver that action under a few conditions.

        • SpikesOtherDog@ani.social
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          15 hours ago

          Wipe and resell on local buy/sell/trade. They will monitor someone else. Otherwise, put it on a separate subnet and use a bot to reshare every scrap of social media it can touch.