The picture in question for reference.

  • callouscomic@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    Any Christian who didn’t have a clear problem with him by the end of 2015 is a complete piece of shit. Any Christian who voted for him deserves to go to hell.

  • SharpieThunderflare@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    Christian American here. Just about everything Trump has said or done with regards to Christianity since his first campaign (and before) has made it clear that he is in no way a regenerate disciple of Christ. This is not surprising, just more of the same pandering, self-righteous, self a aggrandizing stuff we’ve seen for years.

    There’s a concerning culture of what I call Americanism within the American church, where nominal/cultural Christianity is mixed with prosperity gospel/materialism, nationalism, and a bunch of other unbiblical teaching. It truly is idolatry in many forms. Politics are one expression of that, where even good desires are swallowed up into partisanship and division and sold as the lesser of two evils. Leads to all kinds of hypocrisy.

    Happy to answer any questions or comments.

    • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      22 days ago

      How does a congregation square that circle? Like how do they preach things directly counter to their main book (the bible) and still think they are following the teachings? Or do they not and it is another schism, but this one is about american exceptionalism and how actually worshiping golden calfs is good, somehow?

      I guess I just don’t get how you can have a room full of people, give them all the same book and then have them all get on board with something entirely counter to said book.

  • Mr Fish@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    I feel offended, disgusted, and entirely unsurprised. While this is probably the most blatant example of him blaspheming, it’s very far from the first. Even on top of that, him and all the other nationalists that work with him have been dragging God’s name through the mud for ages, really from long before Trump started politics. I can’t say for sure if they believe God exists or not, but they sure aren’t following him.

    For context: I’m not American, but I’m very much Christian.

  • reksas@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    is he going through a list about antichrist? this is literally one of the things.

  • wuffah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    I think Trump is definitely a Christ-like figure when I remember that Jesus was executed by the state for leading a rogue political movement.

  • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    There is the SLIGHT possibility that we are loving in bible times, and trump is the messiah, and like the bible, everyone hated him.

    I will only believe that if he comes back from the dead though

    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      22 days ago

      Trump is just an old man with obvious cognitive decline, and possibly alzheimers like his father.

      If hes the “messiah”, I want nothing to do with him bcz he’s a petty nasty person and represents the worst qualities in a human being that could possibly be expressed.

      • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        22 days ago

        110% you are right, but I can only think of that scene in Dune part 2.

        Of course he is humble. That proves he is the messiah…

        My mom was Team Kirk when he died. I wonder if The Wire has an an tire come darin for Dune part 2 because it is anti-religion. I can’t find a review on YouTube, and no way in hell I am searching facebook to search for it. (Mom listens to daily wire on facebook daily)

  • HeHoXa@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    As a kid, our Baptist church had two flags with golden eagles on the top in the pulpit alongside the cross.

    The actual religious tenants aren’t a part of your typical American church.

  • NateNate60@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    Since there’s not really that many Christians on Lemmy, I took the liberty of showing my former college roommate that image. He is a devout Catholic and also a two-time Trump voter, though I will note he has since soured on Trump since his re-election (for these and other reasons). His reaction was that the image was insulting to the Catholic religion and blasphemous.

    Last year, I had also asked his opinion on Trump posting an AI-generated image of himself as pope when Pope Francis died, and he said that post was “not cool”. He said that to imply one could simply become pope without first rising through the ranks of the Catholic Church, especially someone as unpious as Trump, was disrespectful to those who dedicate their careers to the clerical service, and he found the image offensive.

      • NateNate60@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        22 days ago

        He was too young to vote in 2016. He voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. I asked him a week or so ago whether he plans to vote Republican in the upcoming election. He says he plans to throw his ballot into the bin.

    • Sunflier@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      22 days ago

      His reaction was that the image was insulting to the Catholic religion and blasphemous.

      You friend’s reaction to the image was insulting and blasphemous? Or, was is reaction was that the image itself was insulting and blasphemous?

      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        22 days ago

        This doesn’t even make sense as pedantry because the “that” in their comment wouldn’t make sense unless it was the latter.

        • Sunflier@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          edit-2
          22 days ago

          Well the “that” could be that the friend’s comment was that the image was insulting to Catholics, or the “that” could be referring to the specific reaction. It basically needed some better comma usage because there is a difference between:

          His reaction was, that the image was, insulting to the Catholic religion and blasphemous.

          and

          His reaction was that, the image, was insulting to the Catholic religion and blasphemous.

          I guess the vagueness comes from the double “was” usage.

  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    22 days ago

    Jesus flipped nicer tables than this.

    It makes me angry, but not more than any of the other terrible, dehumanizing, antidemocratic stuff he’s done. To me, this is just more proof of what I’ve always known: maybe he’s not the Antichrist, but he sure is an antichrist.