Apparently there will be some boycott of PS in regards of decision to discontinue disks.
From 23 to 30 of August.
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Boycotts don’t have start dates. They happen as soon as someone says it happens and you’re either in, or you’re out.
Boycotts don’t have end dates. They happen until demands are met. If that means you never buy/do that thing again, so be it. If you’re not prepared to commit all the way, don’t participate.
Over time, the definition of “boycott” has been watered down to make people forget what makes a boycott effective. People have forgotten that the Montgomery Alabama bus boycotts lasted for literal years and saw people donating time and money to fixing up old cars, horse-drawn carriages, and carpooling to make them effective.
If you want real change, you have to be prepared to take real action. This one week boycott is pussy shit and won’t solve anything. If you’re gonna organize, do it for something that will work.
The boycott begins today. Right now. No more PS+ logins or payment. No more buying new games or consoles. No more anything that puts money in Sony’s pocket (buying used is fine, that money only goes to the reseller) and it lasts until Sony reverses its decision to stop printing physical games.
If we want to continue boycotting until they revise their digital licensing, we can demand that once we’ve made progress on the physical media. That’s what everyone cares about, so let’s keep the demands short and simple with that as the only one.
but it makes those people feel good about themselves.
Couldn’t agree more!
Just cancelled my PS+ subscription with reason “other”.
I’ll see you all on the seven seas!
Wait so you’re going to stop buying physical PlayStation games and instead …. pirate pc games?
Most important features of physical media are transferability (you can give the game to someone else and it will run) and autonomous access (you can run your game even if Sony or simply your Internet connection go down). Piracy typically checks both of these boxes.
It may not hold a collector’s value if that’s what you’re after, but I’d argue this is secondary anyway. And if you simply want to hold a bunch of game disks, you can always buy an empty disk and put the game in there.
Just FYI because seemingly no one appears to know this, but if your console is set as your “home console”, you can play all of your digital games offline, forever, on it. You can back them up to external drives, and copy them back over to the console at any time and play them, even in a nuclear submarine under the ocean.
The “home console” thing make it store all of your licenses locally, so there is no need to connect to auth servers ever on that console to play the existing games. I used to have every single game I own on Xbox backed up on external drives, but couldn’t be bothered after a while as I have no issues with internet.
If I lost internet for a bit and couldn’t play a specific game because I didn’t have it downloaded, I’d just play something else until I have internet again. That’s not something I lose sleep over.
The more I know!
Technically pirated games can be put on a physical media and stored indefinitely, neither do those require online connection afterwards, so Sony cant just remove those and Sony won’t be getting any money or user metrics for it either.
While not a perfect solution, it’s a decent stopgap and will get more people on board than fully abstaining.
But the PS5 can’t play pirated games……
… can’t play pirated games yet.
and instead …. pirate pc games?
Yeah PS5 games can’t, but PC games can be.
I imagine this is going to lead to a resurgence of the homebrew scene. Not sure if I’ll find games in the forest, or just get my fix watching a streamer long play the games I’m interested in.
No physical, no purchase. Period.
“I want a disk that is literally just an activation dongle to download some digital software!” —ANGERY “pro physical media” morons.
Absolute platinum tier brain-dead take.
The only “morons” around here are people who loudly and proudly share the same stupid disinfo, and try to disparage those that actually trying to keep this hobby from completely going down the shitter.
No one’s trying to take away your ability to buy and play digital games, so why the fuck are you advocating doing so for those that prefer physical media?
Has your dumb-ass not yet realised that physical media means competitive pricing, due to Sony’s online store needing to compete with B&M sales, as well as the 2nd hand market?
Once that’s taken away, and you’re stuck with “dynamic targeted pricing” of $70+ dollars for years-old titles - if you can even still purchase them - maybe then, the couple of brain cells floating around in that massive waste of space between your ears might just manage to find each other, and it will finally dawn on you just how hard you’re now getting fucked over.
Oh, and by-the-way - removing digital-only titles and DLC from the sales metrics, something like ~50% of game sales are still through physical media.
Meh. Pirates will always be there to make these things available for free if anyone cares.
Only fools will be champing at the bit to own a scratched to hell copy of the idea of Death Stranding or Elden Ring on a disk that doesn’t work on a system that doesn’t work when they can just download a rom of it for free off what ever the hell new site pops up in the future (or pay $0.30 for a native build on whatever computer platform is dominant then).
I got Wind Waker on like 3 different devices, all stored locally. I don’t care that I sold my physical copy of it (that I bought new for the game cube back in the day). I also don’t care that I also have a physical copy of its hd re-release collecting dust in a cabinet. Guarantee you’re not gonna be too sad that you can’t play your original copy of Ghost of Tsushima from disk on a PS5 20 years from now. But I’m sure you’ll be complaining that games are so expensive at $80 in 2046 (but that’s a different gamer essay).
I see these things and laugh every time. One week or even one moth is meaningless, you have to commit. Boycott until you see the change you want. I’ve been boycotting EA for over a decade now, still haven’t see any change but I feel better knowing I am not giving them money.
Remember that screenshot of Steam group “boycott modern warfare 2” with almost every player with “in game: modern warfare 2”
Yeah, are they going to stop after a week, stomp their foot, and tell Sony to knock it off?
I boycotted Walmart for years, realized I would never see any change, and continue to not shop there because Walmart sucks and my life is better now. If you make the change the goal, you are lining yourself up for disappointment. If you make doing business with companies congruent with your values the goal, you win if you last a week, you win bigger if you last a month, and you win the grand prize if they change or you leave and never look back!
the reddit thing failed bc the blackout had an end date, so this will fail too
if yall want to make a noticeable impact then stop using playstation (or sony) services until they revert their decision
I do want to give some insight. The reddit blackout did work technically. At least for me. I left reddit during the blackout and joined lemmy. Found it a lot better and remained. Letting people get a taste for not bootlicking a corp during a blackout is a small way to kick start a change.
Sure it might not get measurable change in the way the shareholders would change their mind, but every little discression against major corporations is a step in the right direction and I don’t think the people ITT should be shitting on people for trying to retaliate against Sony, albeit for a short time.
Good point. People are right that a week is unlikely to change much and we should set our sights higher. That said, you are also right that if we approach it with a “this is pointless and will fail” attitude, then no one tries the alternatives at all and the conditions that eventually lead to change will never develop. Best to participate, encourage your IRL friends to participate, and spend the whole week telling everyone who will listen about it.
I thought that was the stupidest thing, the Reddit “blackout”. Company doesn’t care. It’s a metric. It’s a line on a graph. When stakeholders ask they’ll point to it and say “This was are anticipated backlash from the Q2 decision to ban 3rd party APIs, but as you can see we already recovered and have grown at our normal pace.”
This are the same cattle who pre-ordered GTA 6 so it doesn’t even matter.
They didn’t even boycott PS+ switching to paid online. I never paid for PS+. And never bought the PS5. Those who were already dissatisfied with Sony left, and those who stayed I doubt will stop buying Sony consoles even without physical PS6 games.
I usually go months without using mine already. What would this even really do? They don’t make money on the system simply being turned on, and they might have reduced costs in their server bill if everyone stops using them for a week or two.
Everyone should try and log into their account at once, multiple times a day to ddos the thing. 😌
Lol the absolute fucking panic at the c suite when a discord server figures out the exact number of users it takes to do that and starts coordinating it every day.
I know it will never happen but it would be hilarious.
Why stop at just a taste?
Because the players have grown addicted to Sony’s boot flavored meds, the withdrawals become too great after 1 week.
Surely it’ll work this time!
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if its longer than a week maybe, a week boycott is just a piss in the wind.
For perspective, the Montgomery bus boycott, which is usually used as a prime example of how well boycotts can work, lasted for 381 days.
But yea a 1 week surely will do something.
👏 Businesses don’t give a fuck about a timed boycott👏
Agreed it should be: starting 23 of August not purchasing any digital games and microtransactions. It would hurt Sony the most
Seriously, timed blackouts and petitions are just being performative. If someone actually cares, sell your ps5/move to another platform. Nothing else matters. This is like how sports game fans complain every year that the game sucks but are still willing to drop 80 dollars on it.
still willing to drop 80 dollars on it.
LOL.
And people buy that.
Gaming market is FUCKED UP beyond recovery.
Gaming market is FUCKED UP beyond recovery.
AAA gaming market*. Indie market is unaffected by this bullshit.
This, aside from recently playing Death Stranding I got for free, and occasional Guild Wars 2 because they are pretty cool, I have not paid for (or played) an AAA game for years at this point.
There’s so many cool indie games if you know where to dig, there’s really no need to play another remastered AAA slop.
Don’t think casual gamers will care about this. Most will probably just boot up their games on PlayStation after a long day of work or university.
Halo releases this week. Sony isn’t going to notice anything.
We still doin halos?
As much as Sony is a dick ass company, these boycots are cringy as fuck and never achieve anything.
This one did earlier this month.
I feel like I should add while yes they removed the microtransaction, they did the absolute bare minimum they had to do.
I also feel like this type of boycott doesn’t match that type, the one you linked was a permanent boycott until the changes were done, not a week long one. People were straight refusing to buy it period till it was fixed, and people who did buy it was review bombing it.
For clarification: The issue was they implemented a massive XP grind that was reliant on you spending money to level your coach. At the same time they had removed the ability to make it easier to obtain the XP. They removed the microtransactions as a whole for that mode, and readded the previous games XP slider but removed the fastest mode and kept only a 1.5x mode, and didn’t rebalance anything else in the game, so you still have a game that was intentionally geared torward’s someone spending money to level, just without the ability to actually spend money to level. I’m sure some exec intentionally did that expecting people would complain and they could use it as a potential avenue to readd the transactions again as a “see we listen to our community”
I personally do think a boycott on sony will eventually do something, but a week long one like this, isn’t going to do anything meaningful.
Yeah, I don’t think the weeklong one will accomplish anything either, but I often see people talk themselves out of individual action because they can’t control other people’s actions. If we all stop doing that, it’s called collective action, and it works.
They’d work if people would commit to a full, indefinite boycott until demands are met. This “one week boycott” shit is controlled opposition pushing a narrative that a one week boycott is an appropriate response to something like this.
With Nintendo doing similarly (with their cartridges simply triggering game downloads), I may never buy a console again.
I’m doing one better. I busted out the old Xbox and kh2 final mix.
Shouldn’t be difficult, the only time I still use my PS5 is remote replaying some of my old digital catalog or if a relative gave me a gift card
