Industry makes it under the expectation to turn a profit. Overproduction is common and so is wasteful or pointless production. It doesn’t even need to be “consumed” so long as they get paid. The US military constantly blows up “leftover” materials to ensure they get the same budget next year, for example. And most sales are between industries. How efficiently are those industries using all their purchases? Have you ever worked in a restaurant?
If consumer choice doesn’t enter the equation then you’ve proved my point. Focus should be on the system itself that forces emissions as part of core economic activity.
Shell manufactures to produce a profit it doesn’t care who buys unless it is perceived as maximizing profit. Downstream costumers are companies, militaries, and individuals.
Shell doesn’t care whether fuel is considered excess by a military. If excess fuel is used by the military to destroy something Shell manufactured it to do that. I think you’re missing the point.
You’re concerned that I’m focusing too much on capitalism in the global GHG discussion where you asked lazy questions to point fingers at consumers? lmao.
I’m not the reason you’re not engaging in good faith in this conversation. Gotta get over this habit of blaming others for your personal disinterest.
Industry makes it for consumers to consume.
Consumer choice doesn’t enter the equation consumers consuming does.
Industry makes it under the expectation to turn a profit. Overproduction is common and so is wasteful or pointless production. It doesn’t even need to be “consumed” so long as they get paid. The US military constantly blows up “leftover” materials to ensure they get the same budget next year, for example. And most sales are between industries. How efficiently are those industries using all their purchases? Have you ever worked in a restaurant?
If consumer choice doesn’t enter the equation then you’ve proved my point. Focus should be on the system itself that forces emissions as part of core economic activity.
Shell doesn’t manufacture, store and blow up excess fuel and oil.
Shell does manufacture excess fuel and oil. Where else does it come from?
Shell does store fuel and oil including for the US military.
Shell isn’t blowing up the “leftover” US military materials sure. Why does that matter here?
Shell manufactures enough for consumers to buy or for industry to buy so they can produce things and transport them for the consumer to buy.
They don’t just manufacture excess fuel and oil to blow up like your previous comment alluding to.
Shell manufactures to produce a profit it doesn’t care who buys unless it is perceived as maximizing profit. Downstream costumers are companies, militaries, and individuals.
Shell doesn’t care whether fuel is considered excess by a military. If excess fuel is used by the military to destroy something Shell manufactured it to do that. I think you’re missing the point.
I’ll be honest with you I feel like you’re too hellbent on inserting ‘capitalism bad’ into this conversation to ever get the point I’m trying to make.
I don’t think there’s much point continuing this.
You’re concerned that I’m focusing too much on capitalism in the global GHG discussion where you asked lazy questions to point fingers at consumers? lmao.
I’m not the reason you’re not engaging in good faith in this conversation. Gotta get over this habit of blaming others for your personal disinterest.
The narrative you’re promoting right now that individuals are blameless because it’s all the government/industry/capitalism’s fault is not helpful.