• atk007@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This hurts because Debian is named after a couple (Debra Lynn and Ian Murdock) who got married and divorced and Ian passed away. Going with Debian is a lifetime of hurt.

    On the other hand Arch girls are described in Rick James’s song “Superfreak”.

    • Ajikeshi@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      and yet… their names are immortalized… it wouldnt surprise me if debian is still around in 50 years

        • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          3 months ago

          She went for him in late 1993:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds

          Linus Torvalds is married to Tove Torvalds (née Monni), a six-time Finnish national karate champion, whom he met in late 1993. He was running introductory computer laboratory exercises for students and instructed the course attendees to send him an e-mail as a test, to which Tove responded with an e-mail asking for a date.

          Fedora won’t have been around.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux

          Fedora Linux[10] is a Linux distribution developed by the Fedora Project. It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project.

          It looks like there were Linux distributions at the time, but they were very early:

          Early distributions included:

          • Torvalds’ “Boot-Root” images, from v0.95a onwards “Root” was maintained by Jim Winstead Jr., the aforementioned disk image pair with the kernel and the absolute minimal tools to get started (0.10: 4 November 1991)[12][13][14][15]

          • MCC Interim Linux (3 March 1992)[16]

          • TAMU Linux, based on MCC with simpler installation and X11 (14 July 1992)[17]

          • Softlanding Linux System (SLS) which included the X Window System and was the most comprehensive distribution for a short time (15 August 1992)[18]

          • H.J. Lu’s “bootable rootdisks” (23 September 1992),[19][20] and “Linux Base System” (5 October 1992)[21][22]

          • Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X, a commercial distribution (alpha: 8 December 1992)

          • The two oldest, still active distribution projects started in 1993. The SLS distribution was not well maintained, so in July 1993 a new SLS-based distribution, Slackware, was released by Patrick Volkerding.[23] Also dissatisfied with SLS, Ian Murdock set to create a free distribution by founding Debian in August 1993, with first public BETA released in January 1994 and first stable version in June 1996.[24][25]

          I think that there are two possible takeaways from this:

          • Not clear what distro was used — if any — but if it was, it won’t have been a presently existing one. It’s possible that he was just rolling his own setup, not using a distro at all.

          • Linus’s date with Tove derived from an email exchange. What ninja chicks look for in a guy is possibly an email client, not a Linux distribution at all. It sounds like Linus was probably using Pine at the time (though someone could go dig up mail headers from old emails to check).

    • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      This is the way! Everything is based on Arch, Debian or Fedora anyway so you might as well stick to what is well known and supported.

        • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml
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          3 months ago

          well known and supported 🤪

          From my understanding NixOS and Gentoo is “support it yourself”. I haven’t tried either of them so I could be completely wrong about that.

          • TwilightKiddy@scribe.disroot.orgEnglish
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            3 months ago

            It’s pretty much the same thing as everywhere, you have a bunch of lovely people who package and test things, nothing too weird. What you are describing is LFS.

            • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml
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              3 months ago

              Oh! I’m not sure why but I thought you had to compile everything yourself on Gentoo and in Nix that you have to mess with a config to do everything and anything.

              Maybe I should try them both to see what the fuzz is about.

              • TwilightKiddy@scribe.disroot.orgEnglish
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                3 months ago

                Speaking about Gentoo, you don’t “have to” compile everything, but let’s just say it’s strongly encouraged. Most of the compilation is automated though, think AUR on steroids. If you don’t want to touch anything, you can go with defaults for all the software and you’ll get basically what you get on any other distro.

                The thing is, though, if you are not being a little funny with your software, why the hell are you running Gentoo? So, it’s entirely optional, but it’s the main reason one would use Gentoo, otherwise you get a stock standard system with stupidly long updates.

                I can’t speak for Nix, though, I haven’t touched it myself, but from what I know from those around me running it, it’s pretty much the same thing, unless you want something cool, you don’t have to suffer.

                • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml
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                  3 months ago

                  Okey thank you so much for the information! I can see the appeal. More freedom and customization. I am all for it.

                  But for my use cases I think Arch is enough. It strikes a nice balance with official packages and the AUR and I love that you get to choose all of the packages you want to have installed.

            • BladeFederation@piefed.socialEnglish
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              3 months ago

              That is very surprising, last I heard it had to catch up with having popular applications. Is this due to how package dependencies differ on Nix vs what people think of traditionally as packages?

              • smiletolerantly@awful.systems
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                3 months ago

                Not really. (When was last time?)

                The reason is more that the config language that you have to learn if you want to use NixOS is the exact same you use to package applications for NixOS.

                So any user is also just a tiny, non-intimidating step away from being a contributor and package maintainer.

                I know for myself, I never packaged for the AUR - just seemed way to intimidating and a lot of new stuff to figure out - but I maintain a bunch of packages and modules in nixpkgs, and they’re all stuff that was “huh, this is cool but not packaged yet; alright, I’ll package it in my private config; oh that was easy, let’s upstream it”.

                • BladeFederation@piefed.socialEnglish
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                  3 months ago

                  Couldn’t even tell you tbh.

                  Well that’s pretty cool. I always liked the idea of being mega reproducible. I might try it on my home server instead of Debian.

            • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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              3 months ago

              Interesting graphs.

              Alas, the metric’s a mite confounded by the different ways distros split up packages. So it skews e.g. the Debians up, and the voidlinuxen down.

              … I’m guessing that still wouldn’t be enough to put a dent in AUR and nixpkg 's towering package counts though.

      • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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        3 months ago

        That’s all it takes to be a distro slut!?

        What the heck am I then?

        %brl list -v
artix
bedrock
ceres -> devuan-ceres
devuan -> devuan-ceres
devuan-ceres
devuan-ceres-new
devuan-chimaera
devuan-testing -> devuan-chimaera
devuan-unstable -> devuan-ceres
exherbo
fartix
fentoo
fexherbo
garyos
gentoo
gentoostudio
goblin
gs -> gentoostudio
hijacked -> gentoo
init -> gentoo
jentoo
kentoo
kentwo
local -> gentoostudio
marklar
oasis
pclinuxos
space
suckless
tentoo
tudio -> gentoostudio
ubuntu
void
void-kde

        And that’s just one of my computers.

        [… it’s starting to make sense, thinking about one thing I made, I called wminizer]

    • jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I’m noticing Lemmy is becoming slightly less hateful towards Ubuntu lately.