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    @TheImpressiveX Back in 2000 I briefly taught at UC Santa Barbara. One class was a summer, two week course in Adobe Director for Japanese high school graduates prior to entering Ritsumeikan University. I cast about looking for a Japanese version of the program, but could not find it. One of the students later told me they wouldn’t expect such a thing to exist, as English was the language of coding.

    ymmv

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    You’ll be surprised to learn that WinDEV can be programmed in a ton of diferent languages. I mean the instruction set and all. It feels dirty to read code written in french, and that’s my mother tongue. What a shit show. Only ‘logo’ for kids in primary school makes sense to have in their native language. EDIT : mostly french or English actually https://pcsoft.fr/wlangage.htm

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      Came here exactly for this comment…

      Windev is probably one of the worst possible programming language out there, look at this !

      This is from their official documentation

      // Récupère le CA du mois en cours
      TotalCA est un monétaire = CalculCAMoisEnCours()
      
      // Si le CA dépasse l'objectif
      SI TotalCA >= 1 250 000 ALORS
        LIB_Objectif= "Objectif dépassé !"
        LIB_Objectif.Couleur= VertFoncé
      SINON
        // Si le CA n'atteint pas l'objectif minimum attendu
        SI TotalCA <= 200 000 ALORS
          LIB_Objectif= "Objectif non atteint"
          LIB_Objectif.Couleur= RougeClair
        FIN
      FIN
      
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    A mix. In uni we learned algorithms in pseudo code and that was always in native language. Actual coding was typically English, but older professors often did it in their language.

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      I don’t begrudge peoples difficulties with English. It has some positives like not needing gendered conjugation for objects and a fairly wide cultural exposure. However it freely steals words from other languages making it a bit of a mongrel. Also the spelling and pronunciation is entirely non-regular so the usual answer to people looking for rules to work these things out is “just know”.

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    The real deal isn’t the language barrier but the keyboard layout. Most special characters usually used for coding are just perfectly at hand when using the US layout.

    At one point i started buying US keyboards set with the US-int layout, which i find easier to use than ES and latam.

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      This, I switched my keyboards to US layout, and since I learned a bit touch typing , having the laptop with ISO es_ES is not of a big deal having the symbols not matching the input layout.

      For Mac it is a bit shittier, I don’t get used to the way to introduce the Ñ with its US int.

      On Linux, I didn’t managed to set the US int, only US so I don’t have either Ñ nor the possibility to add accents. It might be easy but I didn’t look for it either.

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    Most popular programming languages have English-language keywords and that can’t be changed, so we certainly have to learn those.

    How we learn to name symbols (variable/function names), that obviously depends on the programming course. But most real-world code has most symbols written in English with the possible exception of business-specific terminology that the business doesn’t use in English. The same is true of comments.

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    Never even heard of a programming language in Danish. Even the ones invented by danes are in english.

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    No chance, hungarian has non-ascii characters(ő and ű), digraphs(cs, dz, gy, ly, ny, sz, ty, zs) and a trigraph(dzs). Also generally how the language works is pretty disadvantegous to coding and tech. English has maaaany useful one syllable imperatives(get, click, etc), even with doors irl its often in english whether you pull or push cause hungarian doesnt really have these completely stateless verbs. One thing that did exist back in the day was people coding in german but i only know a single person who still does this.

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    I wrote variable names and comments in Spanish when I started as my English level back then was very low.

    Once my English improved and started to use English documentation and tutorials I just switched to write in English.

    In my previous job I worked at software consultancy, I had coworkers who wrote code in Spanish but it wasn’t the norm.

    Currently I work for an international company, the team is Spanish but we have to write everything in English as it can be shared with teams in other countries and audited by international organisations.

    When AI tools were allowed, a lot of people use them in Spanish, it generates code with comments in Spanish. I had to reject a lot of PRs from the same guys over an over because everything must be in English.

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      I use British English in variables for the word “colour”. It’s actually kind of useful because I can tell when it’s my own variable and when I’m interacting with something else.

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    Russian here.

    For the most part, it’s all English. Not even romanized Russian in variable names, although that happens sometimes. Comments are mostly in Russian, though. Depending on the company and whether it has to deal with countries where Russian isn’t as widespread, which is not a lot these days, that English can be a little difficult to understand once you start applying English language logic to it as opposed to basically writing Russian poorly translated to English. It’s fine if the variables, classes and method names are short and offer little room for stringing words together, but anything complex poses risk of producing something that will be difficult to read without heavy Russian background and developed English skills (at both comprehending and producing).

    However, there is a number of Russian-based programming language. I am fortunate to have never worked with any one of them. One of them is 1C:Enterprise, which is also a sizeable business for automation software and such.

    Here’s what it looks like. I can spot a couple of English words there, though. And having learned programming through English and English only, I actually find it more difficult to read, because Russian-native developers still often refer to things in English, even if there’s a word for that same thing in Russian - it’s just that much part of your programming work.

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    I teach my students to just code in English from the start. Not all languages/compilers/linkers/whatever handles the Danish characters ‘æ’, ‘ø’, and ‘å’ all that predictably, most companies will require you to use English for international collaboration, and besides most documentation is in English anyway. Last reason is why I urge my students to just use English versions when available. Some FLOSS translations are crap, and you can’t just copy paste an error into askjeeves and get an answer.

    The only thing that has to be in Danish is Excel automation, because for some bizarre reason Microsoft translated all some of the functions. I say some because I’ve seen functions in English that just wasn’t available in Danish Excel.

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    I quit my degree in computer science in 2018 after studying for two years, but I remember that it was a big focus on using norwegian for variable names.

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    About every programming language is based on English. Names for functions, objects, variables are based on personal, project, or company preferences. In reality you’ll find these only in two languages as far as I’ve seen in the last decades: either English or Chinese. I’ve seen German and, sadly, French, but they are outliers.