It’s not any more corrupt than the christian organizations. Would I love it to be a perfect blameless foil? Sure. But sparing that, it tries to be kind and accepting, faithful to a creed Christians have allowed themselves to forget en masse.
If you are of that flock, you need to study more. Look into the role of Satan—how it evolves between the testaments; who wrote the gospels, when, and under what political pressures. It’s convenient to believe what you’re told—but I recommend the hard liberty before the easy yoke. One should not indulge in such decided opinions without an understanding.
Upper leadership is rife with predatory behavior, Lucien Greaves has said a lot of really problematic racist and white supremacist stuff, and there’s a difference between schools of Satanism within the temple. Basically, there’s an amoral, “might makes right” interpretation of Satanism that can act as an ideological framework to enable all sorts of abuse, and then there’s the “one’s own body is inviolable, support queer liberation” style of Satanism. The upper leadership (in my experience) is mostly the former type of Satanist, whereas the general membership are the latter. So the org has a lot of problems.
Some of it’s my own personal experience, I’ve been a Satanist for the last 15 or so years. But some of it’s also from Dead Domain’s videos on the Satanic Temple.
IIRC, The Satanic Temple started as a satirical project (“if cruelty and oppression is Christian, what if Satanism was about being nice?”) and then ran away. When the flaws in the organisation/the founders’ histories came to light, dissatisfied members/supporters formed new groups more sincerely committed to basically humanism and social justice in Satanistic theatrical costume, such as the Global Order of Satan.
Both of these groups are still ahead of Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan, which started as an Ayn Rand-inspired backlash against 1960s hippie peace-and-love, but these days would be indistinguishable from Republican Christianity except for the symbols.
Try a Unitarian universalist Church. No Satan. No God.
Basics…
That’s a great option, as they’re extremely welcoming to everyone. This is probably the wrong community for it, though!
That… says a lot.
About whom?
Word twist on “extremely welcoming to everyone”
personally, I think we are extremely welcoming to everyone
You’ll have no capacity for the satanic self love without compassion and love for others, even your enemies…
The Satanic Temple is a non-theistic sect of Satanism. They don’t believe in an actual Satan, he’s more like a symbol for self-betterment
I know what satanism is.
It’s not self betterment. It’s just selfish.
Seems like you don’t actually know what Satanism is. Spoken like a true Christian
I’m militant atheist.
I would be very cool and supportive of putting Christ on the cross again.
As an athiest myself, the funny thing about militant athiests is that they’re almost exactly the same as Christians and you just prove that
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To reach their round
No, that’s not how facts work.
you’re thinking of LaVeyan Satanism. that’s different than TST
It’s not exactly popular to talk about it here in this community, but the satanic temple REALLY sucks as an organization too.
Trash people should be crucified. or worse
Go fuck yourself
You first Sally.
It’s not any more corrupt than the christian organizations. Would I love it to be a perfect blameless foil? Sure. But sparing that, it tries to be kind and accepting, faithful to a creed Christians have allowed themselves to forget en masse.
If you are of that flock, you need to study more. Look into the role of Satan—how it evolves between the testaments; who wrote the gospels, when, and under what political pressures. It’s convenient to believe what you’re told—but I recommend the hard liberty before the easy yoke. One should not indulge in such decided opinions without an understanding.
Phew. Good thing I’m a genius talking to fucking idiots on Laramie!
In what ways is TST a bad organization?
Upper leadership is rife with predatory behavior, Lucien Greaves has said a lot of really problematic racist and white supremacist stuff, and there’s a difference between schools of Satanism within the temple. Basically, there’s an amoral, “might makes right” interpretation of Satanism that can act as an ideological framework to enable all sorts of abuse, and then there’s the “one’s own body is inviolable, support queer liberation” style of Satanism. The upper leadership (in my experience) is mostly the former type of Satanist, whereas the general membership are the latter. So the org has a lot of problems.
Well put, thank you.
Do you have sources for this? I’d like to read more about it
Some of it’s my own personal experience, I’ve been a Satanist for the last 15 or so years. But some of it’s also from Dead Domain’s videos on the Satanic Temple.
IIRC, The Satanic Temple started as a satirical project (“if cruelty and oppression is Christian, what if Satanism was about being nice?”) and then ran away. When the flaws in the organisation/the founders’ histories came to light, dissatisfied members/supporters formed new groups more sincerely committed to basically humanism and social justice in Satanistic theatrical costume, such as the Global Order of Satan.
Both of these groups are still ahead of Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan, which started as an Ayn Rand-inspired backlash against 1960s hippie peace-and-love, but these days would be indistinguishable from Republican Christianity except for the symbols.
You obviously don’t given you are just regurgitating christian dogma
What’s satanism?