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    4 days ago

    But if a group of doctors develop a vaccine that is then tested under supervision of thousands of their peer, with thousands more checking the data and claiming they look good, including most likely your own physician, suddenly it’s too much uncertainty and you need to become an expert in the field to trust them.

    Only when it was developed in extremely short terms as emergency measure instead of in regular way. Is this “little nuance” really so unobvious it needs to be pointed out.

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        https://www.cgdev.org/blog/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-was-fastest-global-history-low-income-countries-were-left-behind

        For previous vaccines for which we have data, the average period between microbe isolation and vaccine development was 48 years, with a record of about four years. The average time between vaccine development and 40 percent coverage was 42 years, with a record of 14 years for rotavirus. For COVID-19, the period between microbe isolation and vaccine development was less than a year, and between vaccine development and 40 percent coverage just 11 months.

        So my personal standard “lets wait 2 decades” isn’t even that big, because average is 4 decades.

        What corner was cut for the Covid-19 vaccine?

        I don’t know that in detail and I didn’t research it. In my country this virus wasn’t such an overwhelming question of life and death as it was in US, apparently. There was no dilemma of “vax risk vs covid death”, it was a bit scary in the news at first, but almost invisible flu that not many really reported at all in media and I don’t personally know anyone who was even sure they had it or died from it. From this thread I get it that it was some kind of plague in US where literally everybody were dying left and right from this virus. In this context your collective defense of vaccine and peer pressure on ever questioning it makes some sense. In my case, it wasn’t even important enough to research vaccine situation, it’s just more reasonable to question the vaccine in absence of longer timeframes of data, because the virus itself isn’t even scary enough. I expect scary enough virus to be observable empirically and socially, not only in numbers given from above.