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    21 days ago

    Israel is taking control of part of Lebanon, because rockets were being shot at Israel from that part of Lebanon. If Israel had not been attacked from there, Israel would not have invaded. That is ethically and morally quite different from Russia’s unmotivated war of aggression to annex their neighbor.

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        21 days ago

        Because they are the proxy of Iran, and Iran uses anti-semitism to distract their population.

        Seriously, that is it. Why did you think that Israel and Iran are at war? They are 1000km apart. WTF would Israel care about regime change in Iran, if not just to stop Iran attacking Israel?

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              7 days ago

              I am always dubious of people who claim they have nothing against “the people of <country>” just the government. See it doesn’t fit with lived experience.

              I get called upon to answer for every crime (real or imagined) of the Chinese government because I’m perceived as Chinese for these reasons:

              • I’m half-Chinese and my appearance leans very much toward my mother’s side.
              • I’m resident in China.
              • I don’t instantly leap up and criticize everything Chinese, nor do I instantly agree with ever criticism of China.

              So I’m basically accused of being a Communist Party of China shill (despite, ironically, my not even being permitted to join the Party if I wanted to … which I don’t), being a “brainwashed” Chinese citizen, despite holding a Canadian passport—and never another—for about half a century, and in general treated with contempt and suspicion.

              Despite, you know, “nothing against any Chinese”.

              So … perhaps you’re the exception to the observed rule? But I won’t be putting myself on the line to test it. I’ve got well over half a century of testing completed.

              edited to add

              I have the perfect parallel, actually. Fundamentalist Christians who babble about “love the sinner, hate the sin”. Their actions constantly belie their pretty words. Same for “love the <insert national citizen>, hate the <nation> government” crowd.

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                I don’t really know to respond to this. You’re projecting things onto me that I can not defend against without divulging too much about my personal life.

                And I also don’t mean to invalidate your experience. I do not doubt that you have gone through that countless times. Nothing I can say can convince you that I’m sincere. And why should it?

                But that leaves me in a weird place. Should I have said nothing? Just criticize a government and make no statement on its average citizens? Assume the sentiment will be implicit? I’m not comfortable with such assumptions on the modern internet unfortunately. I’m not happy with the state of things either.

                But I strive to form my own opinions and always see the individual. Whether you can recognize or trust that or not I feel I have to go on that path.

                I appreciate your input. Even if, or especially because, it led me to think a lot.

      • Aside from all the politic shit. They tried to end my existence via the enforcement of the One Child Policy. I was the 2nd child in my family, they nearly ended me.

        Thank god I got lucky and somehow lived.

        Not the user you responded to, but I got a vendetta against PRC, it’s personal.

          • That’s if they don’t catch you.

            My mom told me the first hand account of how women would just get forced abortions.

            Like there are lots of women that was pregnant with their 2nd unapproved child, then the government found out and they’d force you go get an abortion.

            My mom managed to hide me till like month 8 of the pregnancy, then like someone found out but they turned one eye blind and didn’t report it.

            I mean I don’t exactly understand the full story either, its not like mom wrote a diary on it.

            Basically it was a combination of many factors that lead to me surviving.

            There was an issue of jurisdictions, they mostly left it local governments to enforce, mom was from Taishan and she was working in Guangzhou when she had me, and she was supposed to submit a pregnancy test every 3 months and send results back to their hometown. But mom told me she got another woman to take the pregnancy test for her under her name.

            So like, the people working for the Guangzhou government didn’t enforce it as harshly because she wasn’t registered in their Hukou.

            Perhaps a god exists and they intervened? idk, not really that religious…

            I barely lived, and yes there’s a fine, like somewhere in the ¥20000-¥30000 rmb which was a lot in the 2002s.

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            21 days ago

            Not to my knowledge, but I’m sure they’d like to and don’t recognize Taiwan as separate from China.

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              Call me crazy, but that doesn’t feel as bad as

              • invading Ukraine
              • invading Iraq twice, bombing Iran, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, bombing Yugoslavia, arming a genocide in Guatemala, invading Afghanistan, invading Vietnam, bombing Cambodia and Laos, funding a genocide in Indonesia, funding a genocide in East Timor, funding a genocide in Gaza
              • invading all your neighbors all the time

              Third one is Israel, got lazy.

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                  20 days ago

                  Feel free to extend it, I’ll edit the comment. Ideally in a pithy format with a pure focus on foreign interference like the US one.