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The latest changes implemented in the Systemd repo, related to or prompted by age-verification laws, have made many people unhappy (I suppose links about this aren’t necessary). This has led to a surge in Systemd forks during the last days (“surge” because there have always been plenty of forks). Here are some forks that explicitly mention those changes as their reason for forking (rough time ordering taken from the fork page):

Hopefully the energy of this reaction won’t be scattered among too many alternatives, although some amount of scattering is always good.

  • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
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    23 days ago

    Systemd still has no age verification, so all those forks are absolutely pointless.
    If and when Systemd adds age verification, I’ll move away from it.
    But the recent change adds literally nothing. Just leave the field blank, like you always did with those for your home address and full name.
    The age field is malicious compliance. It satisfies the letter of the law while being completely and deliberately useless for its purpose.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
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      23 days ago

      I don’t know why we downvoted the correct answer.

      It sucks and is stupid but the alternative is banning Linux. You wanna have ICE knock on your door for “harboring a foreign operating system that doesn’t comply with the Christlike values of patriotic Americans”?

      • zeroConnection@programming.dev
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        22 days ago

        Look at how Trump got these stupid Americans pacified and scared to resist for even the smallest things.

        “B…b…bUt wHaT iF IcE cOmeS”

        LMAO

    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works
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      23 days ago

      Yes, this whole thing is very silly. Linux installers ask for your full name already. You can just make one up. Same with the birthday.

      The slippery slope total surveillance state paranoia is hysterical.

      • RedWedding@lemmygrad.ml
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        23 days ago

        Yeah, its not like there is a big push by many governments around the world, for more surveillance and therefore less privacy, right?

          • RedWedding@lemmygrad.ml
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            22 days ago

            Yeah, you really missed my point by saying that. This law on its own is not dangerous, because you can lie.

            They will clearly stop it there, I mean its for the safety of our children after all.

            • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip
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              22 days ago

              No I didn’t miss your point. I was intentionally stating that what you’re worried about is not what is currently happening.

              Slippery slope, the world’s always ending, blah blah blah

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    22 days ago

    Out of the loop:

    The systemd project merged a pull request adding a new birthDate field to the JSON user records managed by userdb, in response to age verification laws in California, Colorado, and Brazil.

    Lennart Poettering clarified that this is an optional field in the userdb JSON object — not a policy engine, not an API for apps. It just defines the field so it’s standardized if people want to store the date there, but it’s entirely optional. Systemd itself does nothing with the data.

    What a nothing burger

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      In response to German purity laws, IBM has added an optional field to their citizen database. It just defines a field “Is Jewish” so it’s standardized, but entirely optional. IBM does nothing with the data.

      What a nothing burger.