• LordFireCrotch@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    Secretly manipulating what other adults are allowed to consume because you think they can’t handle it…hmmm…I wonder who else did that.

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      2 months ago

      I get where you are coming from, where moderation of media can become thought control.

      Unfortunately, the Paradox of Tolerance means we have to be intolerant of intolerance, of stochastic terrorism, of manipulation and disinformation, of yellow journalism, of hate.

      In the case presented by comic, I see it as a white lie to help someone get outside of a toxic echo chamber that is Lox News, I mean Fox News Entertainment.

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        2 months ago

        So you get where I’m coming from but somehow this philosophy makes it… Inevitable?

        This is sounding more fascist by the minute

        “I had no choice, I was just following orders”

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          2 months ago

          More like acceptable.

          No one is immune from propaganda. Not you, not me, and not the older generation that’s been proven to be very susceptible. The ideal is to have a discussion about it, but given the toxicity of right wing about and how very skilled they are, I get it. Hell, I told my sister to do this exact thing to my grandpa. Because I cared about him and that shit, on top of being evil, probably isn’t good for blood pressure and stress.

          We make decisions for each other all the time and the news can be obtained elsewhere. Far from fascism.

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            2 months ago

            All I’ve gathered from this discussion is it really is fitting that the comic is a play on the word hypocrisy.

            Either way, thanks for the discussion.

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              2 months ago

              Legit question. What would you do? A loved one is in a right wing pipeline. They are resistant to discussion regarding the topic (as is common with such things). There are known negative health, life, and moral outcomes to letting it continue. It is known that removing the easy access has positive results. You have the ability to limit them in some way that would not harm or truly limit them (as previously stated, news is obtainable from many sources).

              The trolley approaches and your hand is on the lever. What’s your solution? Because this isn’t a thought problem. It’s something that real people are dealing with every day.

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                2 months ago

                it’s literally a cult, have father who has consumed nothing but murdoch brainrot for 30+ years…if there were a way to go back in time and undo that damage i would

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                2 months ago

                Legit response. I would leave their agency alone and discuss their ideas in the open.

                I wouldn’t like the idea of someone taking my autonomy away, and I don’t think you would either.

                I also don’t ascribe to the notion that the ends justify the means.