Vice President JD Vance just suggested the Trump administration has not yet gone far enough in limiting access to gender-affirming care.

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    29 days ago

    Part of me wants to let the fascists do whatever the fuck because whatever they want to do is clearly a waste of time and resources persecuting a tiny minority of population that have little consequences in the lives of the fascists to begin with. Wasting time and resources means they will eventually and quickly run out of those and therefore lose power. They run on emotions rather than with reason. But on the one hand, a lot of innocent will get hurt in the process.

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      I would say that’s definitely not the case, this is pretty textbook as far as fascism is concerned to keep the Party distracted with purity tests. It’s also a lot easier at the beginning to obfuscate all of your dastardly plans by saying it’s to marginalize demonized outgroup x so people don’t ask too many questions about why they’re doing obviously unrelated thing y

      Obviously the end result of this is more and more infighting and more and more drastic “No True Scotsman” purity tests as more distraction outgroups are deleted by the government leaving larger groups affected over time but it’s still in the beginning/mid stages in the US and they still have plenty of time for larger amounts of mass persecution :)

      I also want to add that you are very naive if you think at some point the people in charge (or at the very least policy setters) didn’t sit around a table and specifically and intentionally pick trans people as a target because they’re very easy to demonize to their base and they also occupy a relatively small portion relative to the population size of the US

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      You really think the trans-hate is only going to affect people who are trans?

      Any man or woman who aren’t sufficiently cookie-cutter cisgendered are going to be affected. Including people who simply work in fields that are typically gendered and not their gender. Women who are doctors or scientists, men who are nurses or stay-at-home.

      People who just don’t look masculine or feminine enough. Women who don’t dress like couch cushions to let Vance creep out on them.

      Pretty much anyone who doesn’t present themselves as they want are going to be “trans”.

      And that’s ignoring creepy ass men checking a child’s genitals.

      And of course, trans people are worth protecting, same as any other person.

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        You really think the trans-hate is only going to affect people who are trans?

        Yeah, that’s why I said let the fascists fo whatever the fuck they want. That’s what the Nazis did-- hurt everyone but in the process actually led to their own demise. Maybe I am anchoring myself too much to the analysis of Hanna Arendt but reading her book on the banality of evil, the Nazis are actually inefficient. They either dismissed or killed so many people, many of whom have talents that could have been utilised otherwise. Not utilising talent is a waste and that led to Nazis own downfall.

        Moreover, fascism is all about emotions (hence the rejection of reason and the anti-expertism). They have a latent angst that want to let out. We tell people to “get it out the system” so similarly we’ll let the fascists get it out their system. People could die sure, but we have to make sure more fascists die than the anti-fascists. It sounds grim and cynical but the Pandora’s box is open and it’s naive to think that there won’t a potential armed conflict. This is what the American founding fathers have put contingencies for with the second amendment.

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          That’s what the Nazis did-- hurt everyone but in the process actually led to their own demise. Maybe I am anchoring myself too much to the analysis of Hanna Arendt but reading her book on the banality of evil,

          The fuck you smoking?

          The Nazis weren’t stopped until the allies stopped them. Until that happened the genocidal campaign kept accelerating. Most of the German citizens either didn’t know, pretended they didn’t know or were actively part of it. Some were part of the resistance.

          Guess what? that’s HAPPENING NOW. you’re living in Nazis America, and you’re being like "yeah, well, uh. Just let them keep on keeping on. What’s a little fucking genocide.

          This kind of accelerationist thinking is exactly how we got here; and I wouldn’t exactly be looking at Hannah Arrendt for wisdom here- she was a Zionist who helped enable the modern era of Israeli genocide of Palestinians by assisting jews flooding British Palestinian mandate (when it was going to be turned over to an Arab/Jewish state… subsequently resulting in the '47-48 war in Mandatory Palestine and subsequent 1948 Arab-Israeli war.

          yeah, she subsequently distanced herself from that official Zionism- weakly advocating for a secular Arab/Israeli state (like what was supposed to be), but you can see the stupidity of thinking fascists will just stop in her own history.

          The question isn’t whether or not fascism is a stable political philosophy- it’s not. it will inevitably collapse. The question is how much pure, unadulterated evil are you willing to accept before you start making it collapse?