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I have an old box running Gnome on Ubuntu. I did a massive update hoping they finally fixed some of my gripes with it.
still no right click -> create text file in the file browser
Welp, I’ll update again in two years
KDE forever. I don’t understand anyone who still uses Gnome.
holy frick I love KDE. Looking forward to what they do next.
i agree kde is awesome
GNOME just works for me. Installed the blur the shell extension or whatever it’s called, and that’s it! In 5 years, never felt the need for anything more!
Thats why “easy to use” is very subjective.
Gnome is sure easy but if things mess up and i need to reinstall? I had to hunt and reinstall my extensions and enable the right settings. That could take like 30 mins or more, after reinstalling the distro.
In minimal setup like sway? I can literally git clone and then stow all my dot files. No more than 5 mins. I could do it with 10 beers at 3am in.
Guys chillax, there is only one respecting winner here; Thumbs down, XFCE.
Customising (not gonna say the racist word)? XFCE. Lightweight? XFCE. Can look like the other two? XFCE. Can be debloated even in the settings? XFCE. Supports both X11 and wayland (if that matters)? XFCE.
written by: (hopefully) fellow XFCE glazer.
P.S. Yes I mean that sarcastic/non-sarcastic. Yes I’m in my own bubble. Yes I use systemd free systems (and waiting for a good glibc-free one too!). Yes I’m autistic.
Isnt xfce less lightweight than KDE? Just because it looks like shit doesnt make it efficient.
You could be more right than I thought. Usually it can go one of two ways: underdeveloped or respectively efficient
But while yes, XFCE may look like the left behind friend in highschool, who still lives in the cellar of their mom, I’d expect that it is left that way on purpose. It has many adaptable features and can be debloated to near any extent.
(skip this part if you don’t need a life story) I personally fell in love with it 'cause I was on multiple MASSIVE hysteria-hypetrains of Tiling WMs and diy distros (etc.) but never completed my journey due to my failed efforts and patience running out.
Now after many rabbitholes of “systemd-free”, “glibc-free”, “debloated”, (list goes on) I learned to accept that I don’t get everything and made compromises with myself to settle with a not-half-bad (or not-half-good) distro with XFCE.
Yes you need a bit of good knowledge of Linux and especially file systems to use this to the fullest and not just as a nearly pre-given and pre-customised DE (like swapping cursors or fiddling with lightdm (basically sddm)), but when that’s the best you get, take it.
P.S. I may be a glazer of all of these things but I can assure you I’ll be at a slightly different point of things in about half a year again ('cause’ve another rabbithole ofc).
P.P.S. For reference I use PeppermintOS (devuan based) which, hates me, I hate it (…sometimes), but it fixes itself if you do the groundwork (don’t ask me how, it just does).
(sry for the monologue)
No it isn’t. Unless KDE has had a major debloat since KDE4. XFCE is lightning fast.
When you have a great product, like say a fork, there is only so much you can improve, apart from keeping it clean and not rust, to justify your job.
Gnome tries to be Apple but even worse
KDE wins again
Someone discovered shake cursor…
Wait until they discover wobbly windows and The Cube.
Compiz 4 lyfe
Or Wayfire. I confess to having wobbled windows as fast as possible until my graphics driver crashed.
Honestly I always disabled all animations. I don’t want eyecandy. Preferably I want to control the computer with a neural link that integrates my thoughts as a control surface. Or Sway, in lieu of that.
Or rescue terminal. I also feel safe and loved in the grub rescue environment.
gnome was horrible to use, even simplest things that make life easier were missing. fucking TRAY ICONS so you can more easily access some running programs?!
made me feel like its system for bunch of elitist that can act snooty when scrubs like me cant handle their minimalist perfection.
Tray icons? You had to use Gnome Tweaks for the most basic things, like adjusting fonts.
i dont understand who likes to use gnome, its just plain awful and even if you customize it there is always a chance update breaks some crucial part of your ui
It’s somewhat decent on touch screens. I use it on an old convertible Lenovo. But on my main system i still prefer KDE.
Ehh, I loved Gnome with the bottom panel hidden and tiling manager installed via gnome shell extensions. KDE just feels like it hasn’t substantially changed in ~15 years and just feels dated and like a halfway attempt at recreating Aero. I’ve moved over to Cosmic and I yearn for my gnome days but it’s getting better with each release.
why change something if it works though?
i took a look at cosmic and it looks nice, maybe i’ll try it too at some point. How much do i need to think about stuff not working on it? I can play and run what I want on mint with steam and wine, is it the same with distros that use cosmic?
Honestly I really love KDE, but I’m stuck on Mint, so I have no choice but to settle for Cinnamon.
I use KDE, but Cinnamon is what Gnome should have been. Cinnamon has just enough customization to make a person happy but it’s not so overwhelming a KDE can be for beginners.
I do have high hopes for COSMIC after a few more iterations. They have something good cookin’ there.
Why stuck ?
It just works and I don’t want to jumble around anymore.
Haha I’m so glad I’m not the only one who fucks up his hand doing this for no reason, one of the best things about transitioning to Linux
Honestly I really like both.
