People who read Wikipedia’s list of fallacies page? We’re both in that.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction, but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history. But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
Are you telling me you’re stupid enough to defend a bible you don’t believe in? Did you… read it? Yahweh is a death god. Check my original comment. I made very specific arguments you still have not responded to.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction
It is a relief to hear you say so.
but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history.
It’s mostly deadly bullshit and outright lies. For example, the Exodus basically didn’t happen. No global flood. No 6-day creation. No resurrection. Jesus did not invent the golden rule, nor did he live by it.
But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I was raised on it, I know much about it. Hence my criticisms. Meanwhile, all you have offered is “you bible bad” with no explanation for how my interpretation is wrong or what you think would be better.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
We’ll never know, you never tried. I’m not doing this because I enjoy it. I want to spare anyone from suffering the fate that befell me. There are more victims every day, but you don’t give a shit.
You need to be smart about it to deconvert people. Like, you need to understand the real stupid reasons people accept this religion, but you forgot or were never into most of it.
Shut the fuck up. I was violently indoctrinated by my abusive christian parents. I know too much about it. I lived with a god in my head for decades. I know no one has good reason to pretend any god exists. It’s deadly, selfish delusion every time. It’s fear, an inability to say “I don’t know”. They submit because they are afraid of their violent abuser, and they call it “love”. It’s stupid. It’s point-blank stupid.
I know why people lie. They’re scared. But that’s not good enough. Their choices are killing us all. It is intolerable. There is no excuse for it.
The hard part is getting them to admit it. They’ve trapped themselves in circular logic. They’re smug about it, proud of their wrong choices. They refuse to apply critical thought because they’re selfish, lazy, scared, incapable of facing reality. They need constant pushback from all directions to counter the constant reinforcement of their baseless ideas they give themselves and each other.
I can’t deconvert anybody. They have to be confronted with sufficient evidence to trigger a change. Barring that, the least we can do is tell them how wrong they are with hopes it will sink in later.
It should be this simple: all life depends on the truth that defines it. There is only one truth. Falsehoods divide us, threaten all life. There is no evidence, argument, or reason to believe in god’s existence. Therefore, it is in everybody’s best interests not to pretend there is a god. The alternative is needless suffering and death.
I can’t understand why that isn’t enough for people. Their shortsighted idiocy is killing us now. We need to do more, faster.
What’s my cult?
People who read Wikipedia’s list of fallacies page? We’re both in that.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction, but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history. But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
Are you telling me you’re stupid enough to defend a bible you don’t believe in? Did you… read it? Yahweh is a death god. Check my original comment. I made very specific arguments you still have not responded to.
It is a relief to hear you say so.
It’s mostly deadly bullshit and outright lies. For example, the Exodus basically didn’t happen. No global flood. No 6-day creation. No resurrection. Jesus did not invent the golden rule, nor did he live by it.
I was raised on it, I know much about it. Hence my criticisms. Meanwhile, all you have offered is “you bible bad” with no explanation for how my interpretation is wrong or what you think would be better.
Cute. People are dying for this shit.
I don’t think I’d enjoy having a serious discussion with you
We’ll never know, you never tried. I’m not doing this because I enjoy it. I want to spare anyone from suffering the fate that befell me. There are more victims every day, but you don’t give a shit.
Fuck you.
You’ve been telling me a lot about myself! Are you psychic?
You need to be smart about it to deconvert people. Like, you need to understand the real stupid reasons people accept this religion, but you forgot or were never into most of it.
Shut the fuck up. I was violently indoctrinated by my abusive christian parents. I know too much about it. I lived with a god in my head for decades. I know no one has good reason to pretend any god exists. It’s deadly, selfish delusion every time. It’s fear, an inability to say “I don’t know”. They submit because they are afraid of their violent abuser, and they call it “love”. It’s stupid. It’s point-blank stupid.
I know why people lie. They’re scared. But that’s not good enough. Their choices are killing us all. It is intolerable. There is no excuse for it.
The hard part is getting them to admit it. They’ve trapped themselves in circular logic. They’re smug about it, proud of their wrong choices. They refuse to apply critical thought because they’re selfish, lazy, scared, incapable of facing reality. They need constant pushback from all directions to counter the constant reinforcement of their baseless ideas they give themselves and each other.
I can’t deconvert anybody. They have to be confronted with sufficient evidence to trigger a change. Barring that, the least we can do is tell them how wrong they are with hopes it will sink in later.
It should be this simple: all life depends on the truth that defines it. There is only one truth. Falsehoods divide us, threaten all life. There is no evidence, argument, or reason to believe in god’s existence. Therefore, it is in everybody’s best interests not to pretend there is a god. The alternative is needless suffering and death.
I can’t understand why that isn’t enough for people. Their shortsighted idiocy is killing us now. We need to do more, faster.