Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?
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Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.
Can you corroborate this with evidence?
It’s widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.
How can they censor what I say? But only on .ml subs, or they can control me account because it’s a .ml account?
It’s widely-know.
Opinions are not evidence of state funding.
Who said anything about state funding? Opinions are sometimes not opinions at all, just propaganda from state actors.
What do you mean by “state actor” if not someone funded, paid, or otherwise supported by a state? Is just being a fan of China being a state actor?
So no, you have zero evidence
Yes, I can’t write about certain things, in a square 😂
The lemmy developers are tankies and three big lemmy servers are entirely controlled by them, namely hexbear, lemmigrad and Lemmy.ml. You will find plenty of China, North Korea and for some kind of reason Russian propaganda on them.
Ah yes, the communities of the zionist genocidal apartheid apologists.
There are apologists of genocide in this communities? Where?
The creator is a Zionist. Eta: as well as the most prolific contributors.
You know, without proof that sounds very much like a whataboutism…
If you know anything about Goat and PugJesus…
Since we’re name-dropping. Phillipthebucket
Well I guess no answer in this case is a very loud answer.
Diggaaaa, you can just look the users, their posts, their communities and how they moderate them (modlogs) up.
No need to spoonfeed you like a child
hi i am goat.
you can ask me any questions you have about my community or my views. My opinion on I/P is that Israel should leave Palestine alone, and Palestine should leave Israel alone. They both have the right to exist.
you’d also be hard-pressed to ever get proof from tankies. They’re MAGA, they don’t operate on proof, only feelings.
I know, all good. I hadn’t really time back then, otherwise I would have been way more direct with those pathetic losers.
sorry that you got dog-piled by them :c
No prob. But I was a bit surprised to see them outside of their safespaces, with non-ml usernames. I guess they are getting tired of getting their instances blocked.
They only venture outside their safespaces when they’ve got support. You’ll never see a lone Tankie venturing outside of it.
You could have just said “rabidly anti-tankie people” LMAO
Heavily propagandized people by the governments that brought Operation Paperclip and Victims of Communism memorials that never happened because oops, all Nazis.
Where does that happen?
You have discovered .ml? Yeah the lead devs are tankies lol
So they’re trying to capture mind share of technologists. Nice play, I’m embarrassed.
Register on a different instance and filter everything ml. It’s a life changer with the Fediverse.
There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire’s naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.
There’s absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.
This seems right. Personally I’m not sure I could roll my eyes harder at the fact that so many people in 2026 are so ignorant as to be prepared to call themselves “communists” - after all the famines, the purges, the 40 years in which much of Europe was struggling to escape (literally) from communism… And then I saw that you, too, call yourself a communist! So I guess I’ll stop there.
Except to recommend you the Ones and Tooze podcast, in which the brilliant host (an ex-communist) recently did a whole series, in great and illuminating detail, on the various communist thinkers. Which I listened to… dutifully.
Their idol Mao killed approx 160 million humans.
Damn, out jerking the black book of communism by an order of magnitude. You’re really going for it
Do you have a source on that? Even if you include landlords killed by the peasantry during land reform, all of the deaths by unintentional famine, and the excesses of the cultural revolution as deliberately killed by Mao, the numbers accepted by Historians are nowhere close to 160 million. This is such a fantastical number that even the famously debunked Black Book of Communism doesn’t go over 100 million, and that was including the entire history of the soviet union as well as PRC. The Black Book of Communism famously included both non-births as deaths, and Nazis killed by the Red Army as “victims of communism.”
You either handle all propagandas or handle none
Chinese reply guy ⬆️
Zionist reply guy. See how easy it is to make false accusation?
Unfortunately I’m not sure how you could handle all propaganda. As long as you have oligarchs and states it will exist.
We have fact checkers, we have reputable historians, we have videos confirming stuffs, we have human right organization confirming stuffs. Propaganda points from Zionism for example are intentionally not remove . I support removing all clear propaganda points whatever it is from China, Russia, the west ,Iran and Israel
I do too but some of it is hard to uproot. Someone has to put in the work to unravel it and it’s often very difficult and unpopular work for the first experts to take that on.
There is less propaganda talking point that you think that can be debunked in 5 minutes. The same propaganda talking repeated points so they become so easy to recognize. You don’t need to know the whole history of Russia and Ukraine to know that Russian invasion is illegal, you don’t need to know too much of the history of China or Taiwan to know that China has no right to take Taiwan, you don’t need too much details to know that Israel is the settler colonial power and that settler colonialism is never justified . Visiting regularly the modlog it is pretty clear to me that mods of big communities do not intent to fight propaganda at all . One can’t expect all propagandist comments and posts to be removed but can expect some to be removed when they are reported
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Sinophobia will get you nowhere. Those “Chinese State Actors” on the Fediverse are largely Western crackers who read theory and oppose Imperialism. You shouldn’t bogeyman an entire nation you don’t know anything about, this is xenophobic and also works against the working class.
Treat it like a troll post. Downvote and move on, if the name becomes familiar block them.
This goes for all propaganda not just the stuff you are against.
That assumes you accurately define propaganda. I think we’ve all faced half baked allegations as such, and had people vote with the accuser, you want everyone to be seperated from each other on here because they misunderstood a point, or understood different facts, or because they are a dumbass on a different topic?
Just downvote, and move on, unless the person is stalking you, looking at you hexrat, or whatever fucking mammal.
This was true until I realized they’re all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They’ve gone all out the last five years.
Even Chinese SA’s have access to VPN’s, proxies, etc. It’s not like they would tie their own hands behind their backs to spread the good word, ya know?
Russia only needed a small number of inroads to influence the 2016 US election, and now? Pff, they hardly need to do anything, we’re completely self-sufficient in propagandizing ourselves. It’s entirely possible China’s already created their own army of Overseas Useful Idiots.
Downvote and move on, if the name becomes familiar block them.
Sorry, but you forgot a step:
Downvote and move on, if the name becomes familiar report them and then block them.
Moderators should help so not all users will need to block these bad actors.
Entire subs and communities, and servers are Chinese state actors. I wish we could daylight this bullshit, a single serving page with a method for rankings subs, servers with biases?
I love these posts, they’re always a treasure trove of accounts to block.
Classic ml attitude, please don’t forget to block me too 👍
Your wish is my command!
I’m so embarrassed I’ve been using a tankie instance without knowing it for months and only recently realized it
