insane that germany wasnt even considert. i know cold war bla bla. but lets be honest, what better land for isreal than the nation that killed 6 million and therefor revoked germanys right to exist.
saying this as a german and a critic of current isreal
That would’ve set Germany back to 1933 basically. The fastest way to get their right wing to overtake the entire spectrum again, despite what just happened.
It was considered by some, I believe. This author wanted to avoid displacing anyone, though. Of course, many in Germany at that time were guilty in some way, so it would have been justifiable. But it would have always been a cause for tension, which, no matter how justified or morally right it would have been, in practice would lead to tensions similar to those in Israel/Palestine today.
idk. i would belive most germans would have apprechiated a second chance even under a new flag (allied states or isreal).
also i am no scolar in thia at all so feel free to provide soirces to teach me, but wernet the palastinean people promised the lnd thats now isreal to join the wareffort on the side of the allies? thats what i was tought before.
so this seems even more explosive than resettleing germany. i mean germans dont even need to move. but accept a new jewisch goverment.
Indigenous identity is tied to historical and biological continuity with a specific territory, rather than religious affiliation alone. Zionists who made the state has no proof of being descendent of the israelites
Anybody who is jewish with mother and father that are also jewish are given the right to live in the west bank by stealing a palestinian house
I see your point. But I believe there would have been a good chance of it turning out like the U.S. when they finally did away with slavery. (Yes, I know different forms of slavery were drafted and implemented before it was outlawed. However, the sure count of people that were in slavery of any kind in the U.S., greatly decreased the decade following. It’s still morally wrong. But that’s a reality the U.S. and other countries lived and breathed back then.) I would worry that some form of Jim Crow laws would come about, after more Jewish people returned. (This does have me interested in learning more about how the Jewish people were treated over a decade, after the Nazi party fell in Germany. If anyone can point me in the right ‘direction,’ it would be much appreciated.) I’m not a historian, nor Israel expert. But I am a person wanting to learn more about the world’s accurate history.
i am confused of what you mean. after ww2 ended in europe germany had no goverment or souverinity. there was no country so to say just the zones under allied forces control. before a german goverment was reestablished they should have given jewish people the right to form their own country/goverment there.
i mean i oppose religous goverments, but if you needed to create isreal somewhere, there was the place. a souverin no mans land
It’s less about the government and more about the populace. A great many of the people of Germany were complicit in the Holocaust. Those that didn’t work in the camps (or even know what happened there) were still reporting their neighbors and having their children join the Hitler youth. Much like the US South where black folks continued to be surrounded by racists that (for over a century) would lynch a formerly enslaved people with no repercussions, the Jews would be living amongst their former oppressors.
insane that germany wasnt even considert. i know cold war bla bla. but lets be honest, what better land for isreal than the nation that killed 6 million and therefor revoked germanys right to exist. saying this as a german and a critic of current isreal
That would’ve set Germany back to 1933 basically. The fastest way to get their right wing to overtake the entire spectrum again, despite what just happened.
It was considered by some, I believe. This author wanted to avoid displacing anyone, though. Of course, many in Germany at that time were guilty in some way, so it would have been justifiable. But it would have always been a cause for tension, which, no matter how justified or morally right it would have been, in practice would lead to tensions similar to those in Israel/Palestine today.
No country would have accepted a state to be forced on their land. Gemrnqy still make the most sense since Germany surrended
idk. i would belive most germans would have apprechiated a second chance even under a new flag (allied states or isreal). also i am no scolar in thia at all so feel free to provide soirces to teach me, but wernet the palastinean people promised the lnd thats now isreal to join the wareffort on the side of the allies? thats what i was tought before. so this seems even more explosive than resettleing germany. i mean germans dont even need to move. but accept a new jewisch goverment.
Displacing white people. Taking the land of indigeneous people seems totally okay.
As if jews are not indigeneous to that region
Indigenous identity is tied to historical and biological continuity with a specific territory, rather than religious affiliation alone. Zionists who made the state has no proof of being descendent of the israelites
Anybody who is jewish with mother and father that are also jewish are given the right to live in the west bank by stealing a palestinian house
The arctic circle?
I see your point. But I believe there would have been a good chance of it turning out like the U.S. when they finally did away with slavery. (Yes, I know different forms of slavery were drafted and implemented before it was outlawed. However, the sure count of people that were in slavery of any kind in the U.S., greatly decreased the decade following. It’s still morally wrong. But that’s a reality the U.S. and other countries lived and breathed back then.) I would worry that some form of Jim Crow laws would come about, after more Jewish people returned. (This does have me interested in learning more about how the Jewish people were treated over a decade, after the Nazi party fell in Germany. If anyone can point me in the right ‘direction,’ it would be much appreciated.) I’m not a historian, nor Israel expert. But I am a person wanting to learn more about the world’s accurate history.
i am confused of what you mean. after ww2 ended in europe germany had no goverment or souverinity. there was no country so to say just the zones under allied forces control. before a german goverment was reestablished they should have given jewish people the right to form their own country/goverment there. i mean i oppose religous goverments, but if you needed to create isreal somewhere, there was the place. a souverin no mans land
Do you really think that any Jews would migrate to a newly founded state right next to or within Germany?
It’s less about the government and more about the populace. A great many of the people of Germany were complicit in the Holocaust. Those that didn’t work in the camps (or even know what happened there) were still reporting their neighbors and having their children join the Hitler youth. Much like the US South where black folks continued to be surrounded by racists that (for over a century) would lynch a formerly enslaved people with no repercussions, the Jews would be living amongst their former oppressors.