It’s everyone’s base nature, and why it takes a constant fight against it.
“Us versus them” is deeper than humans, it’s all mammals. Hell even social insects exhibit it, I’m just not sure if it’s convergent evolution or really that basic an instinct.
It takes very very little for humans to treat demographics as “us”, even just watching Sesame Street has a proven and significant effect.
Like, that and other “woke programming” is pretty much the opposite of lead exposure. Humans need socialized like every other mammal and if we’re not, if we’re raised to think of certain demographics as even less, as subhuman “others”…
We get shit like this.
We can’t “erase” it and then stop worrying about it. Because all it takes is 20 years of an isolated population for people to think everyone outside the in-group isn’t even really human.
It takes a lot longer than 10,000 years of civilization to breed out millions of years of evolutionary pressure.
That’s why we see it mostly with religious extremists who isolate, and people from area where segregation was enforced legally or extrajudicially. And why people started “waking up” around 20 years after Sesame Street and other integrated television started in the 70s.
“Them” forms later, and is literally everyone that didn’t make the cut for “us” because they weren’t exposed to that group. That’s why babies and toddler are so interested in anyone new, they’re soaking up every aspect of that person and cataloging every new thing as now “us”. That goes a lot deeper than just coloration too, and even explains why slightly older school aged kids bully anyone different. They might be 12 years old but their idea of “them” has been solidified.
It’s why school integration went better with 6 year olds than 18 year olds.
As problematic as organised religion is, this is just the type of guy that will piggyback on any form of belief or ideological system in order to be an arsehole.
I’m increasingly agreeing with this take, especially when donations as involved or where support by way of affiliation gives cultural power from sheer numbers. If you don’t really agree with what religious officals say, why stay?
I dunno, trans people seems to be pretty fucking popular, and doesn’t stem from religion. Before them it was immigrants…
These people have been conned, just because it was done from a religious end, doesn’t mean if we got rid of religion, people would suddenly be rational. There’s absolutely no evidence to support that thought. (Cite me if I’m wrong).
What kind of people do you think start and flock to religions that offer worldly power and authority? Organized religion isn’t just problematic, it is the smoking gun.
Yes, that would be the ones holding the gun. Predator-minded self-serving people have always been among us, and instead of handling them properly we raise them up and put them in charge over us time and time again. Religion and government, the perennial weapons used by the human enemies of humanity.
As an aside, it’s crazy how you can go back to ancient Egypt and see evidence of the pharaohs manipulating the masses using religion. First to establish themselves as demigods and second to extend immortality after death to the hardest workers. For some reason people following modern religions can see that example clearly for what it is, but scoff at the idea that it applies to their’s.
By capital I meant the capture of basic necessities. Healthcare (United Healthcare), shelter (progress residential/greystar), food (Tyson foods/Monsanto), water (Nestle, AWK), comfort (Too broad, but you get the point)…
once you realize that all religion is fiction you can see who these people truly are.
It’s everyone’s base nature, and why it takes a constant fight against it.
“Us versus them” is deeper than humans, it’s all mammals. Hell even social insects exhibit it, I’m just not sure if it’s convergent evolution or really that basic an instinct.
It takes very very little for humans to treat demographics as “us”, even just watching Sesame Street has a proven and significant effect.
Like, that and other “woke programming” is pretty much the opposite of lead exposure. Humans need socialized like every other mammal and if we’re not, if we’re raised to think of certain demographics as even less, as subhuman “others”…
We get shit like this.
We can’t “erase” it and then stop worrying about it. Because all it takes is 20 years of an isolated population for people to think everyone outside the in-group isn’t even really human.
It takes a lot longer than 10,000 years of civilization to breed out millions of years of evolutionary pressure.
That’s why we see it mostly with religious extremists who isolate, and people from area where segregation was enforced legally or extrajudicially. And why people started “waking up” around 20 years after Sesame Street and other integrated television started in the 70s.
On the contrary, I think “them” is a taught idea. Babies aren’t racist at all.
Right…
Because in group/out group is still forming…
Everyone they see is “us”.
“Them” forms later, and is literally everyone that didn’t make the cut for “us” because they weren’t exposed to that group. That’s why babies and toddler are so interested in anyone new, they’re soaking up every aspect of that person and cataloging every new thing as now “us”. That goes a lot deeper than just coloration too, and even explains why slightly older school aged kids bully anyone different. They might be 12 years old but their idea of “them” has been solidified.
It’s why school integration went better with 6 year olds than 18 year olds.
That is teaching
No, it is the absence of socializing.
Like, if an adult doesn’t know how to ride a bike because they never learned, you wouldn’t say “they were taught to not ride a bike”.
I mean you would, but people would probably put a couple attempts in to help you understand before just walking away
https://youtu.be/YUUhDoCx8zc
As problematic as organised religion is, this is just the type of guy that will piggyback on any form of belief or ideological system in order to be an arsehole.
And every “nice” person who indulges in religion directly enables him. We should be relying on evidence to guide our choices, not magical thinking.
Which ideology/belief do you think he would use if religion was not an option?
I’m increasingly agreeing with this take, especially when donations as involved or where support by way of affiliation gives cultural power from sheer numbers. If you don’t really agree with what religious officals say, why stay?
I dunno, trans people seems to be pretty fucking popular, and doesn’t stem from religion. Before them it was immigrants…
These people have been conned, just because it was done from a religious end, doesn’t mean if we got rid of religion, people would suddenly be rational. There’s absolutely no evidence to support that thought. (Cite me if I’m wrong).
Your blaming the method, not the people.
What kind of people do you think start and flock to religions that offer worldly power and authority? Organized religion isn’t just problematic, it is the smoking gun.
I’m more than convinced it is not confined to religion, and ignoring that is a big problem.
Yes, that would be the ones holding the gun. Predator-minded self-serving people have always been among us, and instead of handling them properly we raise them up and put them in charge over us time and time again. Religion and government, the perennial weapons used by the human enemies of humanity.
Don’t forget capital, but well said.
As an aside, it’s crazy how you can go back to ancient Egypt and see evidence of the pharaohs manipulating the masses using religion. First to establish themselves as demigods and second to extend immortality after death to the hardest workers. For some reason people following modern religions can see that example clearly for what it is, but scoff at the idea that it applies to their’s.
Currencies are issued by governments, but I agree that capital should be spotlighted as a major part of the problem.
By capital I meant the capture of basic necessities. Healthcare (United Healthcare), shelter (progress residential/greystar), food (Tyson foods/Monsanto), water (Nestle, AWK), comfort (Too broad, but you get the point)…