• zloubida@sh.itjust.works
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    Impossible according to what?

    Logic. Logic precedes the Creation.

    And why is the capability to commit evil always a defining characteristic of free will?

    Because freedom is not absolute, one is always free in relation to something. Since God is love, freedom in relation to God is necessarily the freedom not to love and therefore, the freedom to do evil.

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      Logic. Logic precedes the Creation.

      Logic according to what? What makes you believe logic predates creation? If you’re citing genesis, you might want to reread it: it’s vague as fuck and certainly doesn’t address the (non)existence of logic prior to creation.

      Kinda sounds like you’re making shit up, in which case you might want to review revelations too, which instructs not to do that or sky daddy will give you that eternal spanking.

      Because freedom is not absolute

      Yeah no shit, that’s half the point of my last post, the other half being why it’s so important to you for evil to be part of that freedom, which…

      Since God is love, freedom in relation to God is necessarily the freedom not to love and therefore, the freedom to do evil.

      Speaking of logic, that’s flawed as fuck. The absence of love is not synonymous with the presence of evil. The absence of love is just the absence of love. All the people, critters, things in your life that you’ve paid no mind to? That’s absence of love. They mean nothing to you - and that’s fine. The presence of love? Your friends, family… I don’t need to elaborate here do I? But evil? Hopefully this is something you’ve never been compelled to do - causing suffering for its own sake. That’s not fine… and the universe we’re stuck in is absolutely stuffed with it.

      So again, why does free will - even specifically in the context of freedom from love - have to include evil?