Today i learned that manjaro has, in parts, german roots and is maintained by a german company. For that i, as a german myself, want to strongly apologize in the name of the german people!!

  • Cambionn@feddit.nl
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    29 days ago

    Outside of what Hamsda said (to which I’ve added some context), the thing with Manjaro is also that it’s target is easy usage which attracts beginners. Now that isn’t bad per se (it was my first distro too, and I still run it on some machines. I’m not a hater) but it does become a thing when those people go to Arch-related spaces (like the Arch forum or the AUR comment section) asking Arch-people for help.

    For one, Manjaro isn’t Arch. It may be based on it, but it also has it’s differences. It’s better to ask on the Manjaro forums. Why some Manjaro users go bother the Arch forums I never understood. The Manjaro forum is very helpful, quick to react, and more appropiate. No reason to divert really…

    And secondary, Arch is a distro aimed at more advanced users and has a “know the basics, read the documentation, understand it, and try stuff yourself. And if you thén still don’t know you can ask”. Since Manjaro attracts beginners, the questions they ask are often not only about a different distro, but on the level Arch expects you to be able to figure it out yourself making it rather a nuicance (after all, they’re asking beginner questions in a space for advanced users). Manjaro users doing that somewhat regularily gave it a bad reputation.

    • Kazel@feddit.orgOP
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      29 days ago

      good point

      Why some Manjaro users go bother the Arch forums I never understood

      me neither

      highlight the last time was a manjaro user asking me in the aur to help him with his manjaro issues on the package. fucking leechers

    • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
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      28 days ago

      I’ve always felt that Manjaro holds an untenable position on the Arch derivative spectrum. It’s a weird mix of difficult (inherited from Arch) and fragile setup out of the box.

      The best way to use it is to accept all the decisions that were put into that setup and not tinker with it… but that runs counter to everything that Arch stands for. So it keeps attracting exactly the wrong kind of user, who will tinker and get frustrated, and eventually break it, and then go around telling everybody that it sucks.

      IMO it works well for two types of users:

      • A person who’s desktop-savvy but not particularly Linux savvy, who doesn’t have root rights. Provided someone else handles stuff like the initial install, adding apps, and running the updates for them.
      • Someone’s who’s an experienced Linux user and appreciates the “Archiness” but has grown tired of babysitting their daily driver distro and wants shit to “just work” for the most part. But can also fix it if something happens.

      It’s a rather specific niche.