https://odysee.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odysee

Too much of a Nazi bar problem or a decent YouTube alternative? Thinly veiled American capitalism or respectable if not entirely unproblematic attempt at disturbing the monopoly?

Yes I am very knowingly and purposefully asking how “we” feel about it.

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    I don’t see any Nazi content. What are you talking about?

    Just a ton of nerdy weirdos going on rants about shit or streaming their video games.

    If you want a platform that only feeds you the content you want to see, all you have to do is use Youtube.

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      I’m fine with civil discourse, even with some unsavory opinions. Not so fine with people spreading blatant misinformation and propaganda. There needs to be decent moderation for this, which as I understand, Odysee seems to fail at.

      As @dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone is pointing out, commitment to (absolute) free speech tends to attract Nazis. And by Nazis I mean, actual, literal Nazis, not just people who don’t agree with me on soylent being a decent meal replacement.

      Also, lets never forget that (absolute) free speech would also cover allowing “theoretical” discussion on how to manipulate, groom and kidnap children for certain purposes etc. How to “theoretically” build bombs. How to “theoretically” drug and kill people etc. You might not be persecuted for having these “theoretical” discussions, which is fine but I think it’s healthy for any online space to remove such topics.

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        Who decides what misinformation and propaganda is? For example, you think that Soylent is a decent meal replacement and that talking about it is a harmless debate to have, but I’m of the opinion that it is actually very harmful to your health in the long-term and really shouldn’t be advocated for in any way. (I’m serious, btw, this isn’t rhetorical)

        Who decides on the internet which of us is correct?

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          There’s a difference between saying “I think X, and Here’s Why: Proof” and “YOU SHOULD NEVER CONSUME X IT WILL KILL YOU”

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      any platform committed to free speech and no censorship will attract Nazis, fwiw - so it wouldn’t be surprising a decentralized blockchain project that is committed to free speech might have Nazis on its platform

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        Platforms that have no free-speech and censorship… also have Nazis.

        They are everywhere.

        Good luck creating a Nazi-free platform.

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          the point is that the free-speech platforms generally try to make it harder to remove content, so that the typical moderation that happens on more mainstream platforms isn’t possible

          it’s for this reason Nazis in particular flock to those spaces and form their communities, because there’s no one to stop them

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            So don’t use them?

            I don’t understand what your problem is. You don’t want to see Nazi content, nobody is forcing you to watch it. You just seem to think it shouldn’t exist at all?

            Nazis wrote books too, does that mean you can’t ever read a book?

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              whoa, weird hostility - I don’t care about this at all, and I’m not making a point; ironically I’m someone who has spent time in communities like ZeroNet where this is an issue. I’m just clarifying why the Nazi bar problem is real and prevalent in so many of the decentralized, free-speech-oriented online communities (to help the person I was responding to understand the context)

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                Again, what is your point? Nazis exist, yes. And you what… think any platform that doesn’t try to systematically erase them is bad or something? Or you only feel comfortable using a platform that has never once ever had any Nazi content on it?

                What is your end goal here? So far all I can tell is you are like: ‘this thing exists, and there are maybe some nazis on it.’.

                Where you are going after that I am totally confused.