Education, help your community, try to help people around you getting out of their job thoughts and doing something they actually like, meet new people
You can’t because you can’t fix stupid! The people that do are beyond ignorant and don’t want to be informed of the truth!
It’s easy! Simply eliminate all people.
And how do we that?
It’s simple, we kill The Batman.
Platforms like twitter and facebook (and many “news” companies) brainwash their users, mostly by providing multiple different lies. Users pick whichever lie appeals to them the most, and they pretend they have found the truth.
To combat this, we need to emphasize the importance of thinking critically and verifying claims.
State the facts. Correct their misconceptions. Emphasize that billionaires are intentionally killing us all; lazy thinkers might reconsider if there is a possibility their life is at stake. I’m not saying threaten them, but we are all threatened by human greed.
The people you’re talking to might not listen, but someone else might. Sometimes it just takes repetition to get through to someone, hearing the same clear message from multiple different sources.
I have not seen this behavior outside of maga politicians and corporate c suite types.
There’s a halo of genius around rich people because they’re rich. Like the guy that invented the pet rock.
that like sounds like trump talk. I don’t pay taxes cuz im smartz. Many have talent to some degree or another but no man is worth 1000x the least of men.
I’m just saying your social experience doesn’t map onto the rest of society. If rich people are dumb, that means poor people can be smart, and that would mean that we do not live in a fair world. So for this to be a just world, rich people have to be smart and if they’re really rich they have to be super geniuses. Keep an eye out for articles about rich people giving their opinion about shit they know nothing about; the undergirding assumption is that we should listen to what they have to say because they must be smart if they’re rich.
This is how we got Elon Musk, who, as far as I can tell, is good at some aspects of business, but really masterful at pretending to be smart before extremely guillible audiences.
I know you don’t watch new media, but Angela Collier has more than one video complaining about rich people who claim they could have been physicists. “What’s stopping you? You have the money. You can take time off and even run your own research lab and hire the best professors in the world to teach you.”
I mean anyone who thinks we live in a just world is kinda dumb.
Well, you know what Adlai Stevenson said when someone told him he had the vote of every thinking American?
I did not. But I looked it up. Nice. Little embarrased I did not know.
Any shareholder group like memestocks, even crypto lately is all about defending Blackrock.
I would group them in the same group. shady. like probably popular in buy gold and increase your testosterone crowd.
you would have to stop all the MSM from airing news in a certain way, like no tabloid/opinion pieces.
Education. But you can clearly see the defects of the last 40 years of defunding and deriding education.
stop comparing them to people with reasonable retirement savings and actually make good points instead of bullshit “evil” and “facism”
You have to convince them that they won’t someday be billionaires themselves. And, convince them they don’t want to be billionaires.
Yeah, well said. Too many people are delusional
How much do you want to invest in ammo and a solid backing wall?
If they’re being paid off you can’t stop them. You have to stop the billionaires first, then the payoff money stops flowing and all of a sudden the arrogant and petty petit bourgeoisie are on their own desperately trying to convince you that they were on your side all along.
Guns and ammo. Voting isn’t sufficient. Peaceful protest isn’t sufficient unless you can organize a national strike - which won’t happen.
Be vocal about it. Not just online. Word of mouth is much stronger than a thousand online posts.
Posting about it on the fediverse does jack shit, because we already agree. Posting on Facebook or shitter where the boot lockers are also does jack shit, because the algorithm will sort your opinion out of where it needs to be, and it’s cost free for them to post their angry indoctrinated talking points.
However there’s absolutely nothing Zuckerberg or Musk can do to stop you from expressing your opinion to your family and friends in real life.
I’m fucking done with avoiding topics of politics out of politeness at family gatherings. I have absolutely no desire to cozy up in unspoken agreements of class war or racism or fascism.
I speak up, and so should you. Keep in mind that you need to repeat a point at least 3 times before they even begin thinking about it themselves. And that’s what you want: Them to start thinking. They will come to right conclusion if they just start thinking.
In-group pressure and trauma are the only things that change minds. Traumatizing people is often rude, and maybe a crime, so it’s safer to try to get people to see you as trusted in-group and then work on changing their minds.
I believe that a person can only change their mind when they themselves understand something.
F.i. You can’t teach math. You can provide a pupil the necessary examples to come to the right results, but you cannot force feed knowledge. It only makes sense to the pupil when it makes sense in their own mind.
I also believe that many casual right wingers only hold their political views because they didn’t think about it and didn’t generate their own opinion. They caved in to group pressure. Each and every one of them must have at some point been aware of a situation in which they chose to not want to think about the righteousness of it and simply went with the stream of the group that they wanted to be in, even if it didn’t necessarily align with anything they’d ever heard or believed before, because they were afraid to challenge the view. Some of them even pretend to have formed this opinion themselves and act proud and superior for going against a more commonly acknowledged opinion. But they’re not. Their talking points are the same on a global level.
In every country in Europe the topics are the same, the false arguments are the same, the talking points are as irrelevant everywhere, yet they keep yelling them as if they had witnessed the second coming of Christ themselves. They’re being fed like sheep, and I’ll be honest and admit that I don’t know how it works that well. It shouldn’t but it does.
Anyway, I do not want to make group pressure, nor do I want to force my own opinion on them in a similar manner. I just to debate them enough and provide them with the necessary examples that they can form their own actual opinion.
I just to debate them enough and provide them with the necessary examples that they can form their own actual opinion.
This will be fruitless if they don’t trust you. That’s another way of saying you’re in-group.
Yeah well, I don’t stop strangers on the street to have a conversation about politics.
Most recently the debate where I live has been about agriculture against the environment. The subject came up at my last family gathering and despite the unspoken notion to keep it as civil as possible and just to nod in agreement I decided to stand up for my own opinion and made them think. Nobody dared to speak up for the opposing side, which would otherwise have been the consensus, and by now I’m pretty sure I’ve got my point across and that they themselves will be exposing this point of view or at least bring up that I’m of that point of view if they ever get into that debate elsewhere.
I count that as a win. Also the government made a decision yesterday in this favour, and while I obviously can’t take any credit for that, at least my family will now understand why the decision was made.
I think we agree, then? What I was saying is you have to talk to people like your family. You have to have bonds with people, whether that’s from being a family or just spending time together.
Absolutely. I read your post assuming it was intended to be in agreement to begin with.
I like how this is even possible on Lemmy in contrast to other places where disagreement is assumed as the default.
Mostly independent media. Throw in a ban on advertising if you are already at it. Probably not realistic, maybe just much harsher rules on obvious lies and political influencing campaigns in media. Much harsher prosecution.
Shame. Cultural norms and taboos are reproduced through shame.
Look down on them. Call them bootlickers. Be clear that you think you’re better than them. Make jokes at their expense. Roll your eyes. Leave them out of things.
That’s how a culture exercises soft power against manners we think are unacceptable.
