I think the calls leaving 100 per month are generous
And any positions that are paying minimum wage aren’t hiring full time for those positions, that means more than one job which increases transportation costs and reduces free time.
I have had plenty of full time minimum wage jobs. Also had a few zero hour contracts which absolutely suck in comparison.
And they do that so they don’t have to provide health insurance, which means the employee will have to pay for their own and thats expensive. Highly predatory.
This is a reason I feel like public health care should be a bipartisan issue. Business people should love not having to do health insurance for employees.
It stops their employees from quitting to start companies to compete with them though. It’s too expensive to start your own company if you need to provide health insurance.
It’s not supposed to be sustainable. If you have ANY slack whatsoever you gain leverage against the oligarch class.
It’s sustainable because they tolerate it. They just do the horse bit from Animal Farm
$15/hr min wage
[laughs in Pennsylvanian]
[weeps in Pennsylvanian]

And just think, iirc 19 States still utilize federal minimum wage… So, less than half of $15/hr.
Rent bots have added another $100-$130 to their listing prices.
They’re as naive as someone just putting together that minimum wage en masse isn’t sustainable when it’s a punishing poverty wage. Its a shanty wage…if that.
Even if they had an extra $500 per month somehow, it’s not enough to just survive. For one thing, if you’re human, you need to at least entertain the possibility of vacations.
Why can’t we expect people to survive AND to have a decent quality of life?
For one thing, if you’re human, you need to at least entertain the possibility of vacations.
American media: COMMUNISSSSSSSSST!!! AHHHHH!!! UNREASONABLE LAZY MILLENNIAL!!! HANDOUTS!!!
And we need to be clear that “vacations” does not mean travelling. People will do basic tourist crap in Italy and call themselves worldly, whatever. But people do need money to just exist in their own space without working for a week(longer, obviously). People can’t even be tourists in their own cities and towns.
Where I live (not usa) minimum wage is practically $21.40
And your entire civilization hasn’t collapsed from the weight of fairly paying all those unwashed workers?!?!? Absolutely shocking. Somebody should tell our policy people! They’ll be thrilled at this news! /s
Sincerely, happy for you though lol.
There was this commercial in the 90’s, I think it was burger king. About a young guy doing his budget, it included $19/mo for gas, and it came out to “a dollar a day for lunch? More than enough!” For a 99 cent cheeseburger. That budget was laughable at the time but it’s insane today.
In my area right now you cannot rent an apartment unless you show proof you have income 3x rent. So that 1200 apartment wouldn’t be possible because they make less than 3600
Federal minimum is still $7.25
Whoever wrote the meme lives in a blue state that increased it, and will never think to care about any of the permanent underclass of flyover morlocks in other states.
… Who keep voting in people who make no secret of actively wanting to make their lives worse because they promise to hurt the outsiders of constantly varying form.
Stupid does as stupid is.
Also a lot of people who can’t afford to move
There are also non-idiots in these states. It’s much more of a urban/rural divide. Please save us…
I am helpless to do anything other than offer my well wishes and suggest you arm yourself, as is your country’s custom. I fear it’s going to get a lot worse yet.
Also a result of unfettered corruption and indoctrination
And in the state of Wyoming, you can actually have a minimum wage below the federal minimum, of a mighty $5.15/hour. I don’t know how common it it, as I think a business can’t get away with it if they receive any federal funding, but it is technically legal for them to pay you less than $7.25/hour in some circumstances, aside from the lower wage for tipped workers.
Fight for 15 started back in, what, 2006?
By the time most places had $15, it should’ve been $25
It’s still $7.
Pretty close $24.85 adjusted for inflation for today. But even inflation indexing seems a little iffy when things like housing have been outpacing the general rate.
Answer: it’s not sustainable
The crazy part: its propped up by the ultra wealthy in a country with more guns than people. When this shit does hit the fan, the violence will be on another level.
I just did the math and I don’t get even $15/hr.
Glad that my transportation cost is under $25 and rent is 6x less than that value.
Oh, and food costs are 1/3 of that, as long as I cook myself.But yeah, getting anything imported, would hurt the bank balance.
If your rent is that low you’re clearly not in the US. Why would people with rock bottom cost of living need higher wages? Sounds like you’re living like a king compared to bthe working class here.
Yeah.
Thanks to the income/expense situation being a little bit less unbalanced over here.
Also thanks to the relative ease there is, to get politicians to implement work reform, as compared to the US (not that any of the work reform laws would apply to me).
60 bucks for a phone a month and you call that “minimum wage poor”? While just using 350 for food? The most important factor in life?
I drown in money and use a 8yr old phone and pay 7 moneyz a month for a generous contract. I would consider a 60 buck monthly budget for a stupid phone outrageously wild.
60 buck monthly phone budget is something that will sound reasonable to the policymakers. “Food budget”, however, is completely abstract and negotiable. People who never had to count what they spend on food will argue that everyone can permanently live on the cheapest food items they’ve ever heard of. Don’t forget that according to Fox News, you can eat a whole Thanksgiving dinner for $10. It’s dumb, but that’s how they think, so you have to meet them there if you want to try and get through to them and make a difference.
To be honest, I don’t have any precise clue about food prices either. Our cook buys it. If he all uses it for food or not, we don’t know and don’t check.
But I’m also aware that 10 bucks probably won’t buy shit anywhere in the capitalist world. And surely no dinner. Here (germany) you can buy 6 buns for 10 bucks. We just did and I thought i slept for 3 decades or so. It was 0.10 per bun when I was younger.
Still 60 bucks for a bit…mobile data? I pay 120 for 5x1gbit at home. And for half of it I could use a fraction of it outside? Sounds bonkers. Or maybe I’m just a cheapskate 😁
$60 is the standard price for the highest tier unlimited data plans.
Nevermind that with the ubiquity of WiFi unlimited data isn’t really necessary for most people; Most people still just assume they need that.But seriously, who needs unlimited? I have 30GB, rarely ever use more than 5GB tops. With watching jellyfin.
I may be a cheapskate, but 60 bucks for some unlimited data sounds bizzare. For tiktok-junkies maybe who spend 20h a day scrolling vids?
I agree. I’m on Mint getting like 2GB a month and never reach that because I barely use this stupid rectangle off WiFi.
Cachyos and opensuse here, but at least those are at home only so I don’t need mobile. The updates alone would probably fill some more gig otherwise. But still far from 30.
Whoops, I meant mint the cell service, but OpenSUSE mentioned let’s GOOOO!!! :D
Been hearing a ton about Cachy, gotta check it out! I’m trying to figure out a solid distro to put my less-techy gamers in the family on. It’s likely between Cachy or OpenSuse…slowroll or leap is the question. 🤔
Oh lol, never heard of mint in that context 😁 For gaming there’s no question I’d say => cachy. They’re always up2date and everything works. On suse I had more probs, but I don’t game on that device so I chose it because German 😁
Also pacman beats zyppr. By speed at least. It’s so fucking slow it drives me mad… And then you get paru on top. Guess I would choose cachy (or other arch-based) for nongaming too.
But I’m linux-noob for desktop…
For all my servers I use Debian mostly.
Appreciate your perspective! Thank you so much for the reply! :)
There are some jobs where it’s important. But then it’s something the company will buy. Individuals almost never need it.
Indeed. If needed then you probably don’t need to pay for it.









