COLOURS ARE FUCKING COLOURS. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, FRANCE?!

  • Caveman@lemmy.world
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    Next topic: When and when not to pronounce a consonant as schwa /ə/.

    Spoiler: It depends

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    Big complaints from someone with a language where the connection between the written text and its pronunciation can only be described as rather weak.

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        It is the same word

        Edit: i still understand being puzzled by this, but the thing is, learning a language partially forces you to learn how the native speakers think… i would even argue that is the final milestone on learning a language.

        Spanish found a way to supress the subject from it’s sentences

        Germans speak as if they were assembling a puzzle

        Japanese looks like a programming language… pretty neat

        Russian has two different plurals and the quantity that makes a word fall in the first one or the second one is “arbitrary”.

        I know this looks like a gigantic mountain to climb, but i assure you that as you advance, things will progressively make more sense

        spoiler

        That does not apply to the numbers… it feels like a toddler forgot how to count and started making up shit. What really bothers me is not that but the amiguity… 4 20 sounds exactly as 80

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          Estonians found a way to communicate without sex, future, articles or prepositions. Oh, sounds like a super easy language to learn with fewer things in it, right? Fuck you, we have 14 cases so we could tell foreigners from native speakers by how they confuse genitive and partitive, two of the most basic cases. And then most cities, towns, villages you’d go to use illative (“into”) to say “I’m going to X”, but some will be allative (“onto”) and there’s no rule for it, so people from other parts of the country might not know it and it’ll sound super weird.

          And I still find English to be the weird language. Just look at the different words written as “lead”. Why are they pronounced so differently?! Nothing is pronounced as written.

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          It is not an ambiguity, it is a remaining from a popular way to count. Just as you may count per hundreds and 4 100 sounds like 400, and means it. But you may also count things by dozen (most likely for eggs…).

          Yet you may use “octante” (beligum) or “huitante” (swiss) instead of “quatre-vingt”.

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            You are right… i never paid attention to it cause spanish does not have this until 1000

            4 (cuatro), 100 (cien), 400 (cuatrocientos)

            4, 1000 (mil), 4000 (cuatromil)

            Thanks, this helps me

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    You guys have it easy. In my native tongue every verb changes depending on noun’s gender, tense, while nouns change depending on - I shit you not - how much cute it is.

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        Sure, it’s Polish.

        Example, verbs:

        “I was” in Polish - byłem (male) byłam (female) byłom (neither, not really in use, but technically correct).

        Example, nouns:

        “A cat” - kot (male), kotka (female).

        “Kitty” - kotek (male), koteczka (female).

        Then depending on cuteness informal obligatory rule gradient is:

        koteczek (male) koteczka (female),

        kitek (too cute for gender),

        kituś (much too cute for gender),

        kituniek (cuteness, love and sugar overload, gender does not exists in the universe, you have seen the face of god and they are bliss).

        Works for every verb, but there are grammar rules and shitton of exceptions in the gradient.

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    I know you’re not speaking English while complaining about irregular grammar in other languages, I just know.

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    The change is due to the gender Le manteau (masculine “le”) La veste (feminine “la”). Many languages have the same concordance between gender and adjectives.

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      I think it’s more about how this doesn’t follow the usual rule for adjective agreement. By that rule it would be le manteau blanc / la veste blance, but that sounds weird and un-French I suppose so “blanche” it is. (I don’t know French very well so take this all with a grain of salt)