Currently on an enjoyable journey of de-googling, upping privacy, data sovereignty and so on.
Apps that do this just get it.
My partner recently decided to be privacy conscious specifically to spite me.
They responded positively to my desire to move back to signal for texting (used it when i was on android because iOS enforced a delay that caused messages to receive out of order), but decided to be shitty about it and punish me by deactivating all notifications including just name. Im the only one they talk to on it. So now I have to wait for them to get around to viewing my messages whenever their reminder goes off to check it.
Like… that kind of defeats the purpose of moving communications over if i have to send them a text through imessage to tell them to check signal (they talked me into an iphone “for privacy” and it has been an absolute nightmare)
Meanwhile I have always had all notifications disabled or set to minimum, simply because notifications bug the hell out of me and i don’t want them for any reason that isn’t urgent, and they have constant app notifications. “IT security specialist” my asshole.
Tell them about Molly: molly.im and Molly socket, molly is a signal fork with all the closed source stuff ripped out and replaced, and it lets you use unifiedpush
Thank you for this. For me, though, for telling people. Im presently on ios as is partner.
I genuinely appreciate it for myself and the friends who went to signal with me because i want us all to be safe. Like my ladyfriends who want to send sexy messages to their wierdo boyfriends. They all only signal now, instead of snapchat.
The individual in need of that message, though, The one you sent it for, will… never fucking listen. Years and years of effort. Zero result.
Hmm, this seems not healthy. Are you sure you’re happy with them?
do you remember what were they saying? they deleted everything
Yeah, but it’s not very exciting. Long story short, they’re still engaging in a toxic relationship via signal.
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Lemmy also doesn’t support unifiedpush so it’s impractical to send notifications lol
Installed Lineage 4 months ago. My phone uptime is 4 months.
I can’t emphasize how important it is for you to control your phone, especially notifications. Every notification is literally a mind hijacking attempt. Regardless of the type of notification, it’s something that disrupts our thinking and our flow.
Some of them are necessary—but most aren’t.
All the native apps will of course try to get as much permission from you as possible, including notifications. Don’t allow this permission freely.
Get really strict about which apps need to send you notifications, and when. Take it from a dude who used to give free reign to all apps for notifications.
Once I started thinking in a more digitally minimalistic way, it made a huge difference.
Running GrapheneOS actually helped with this a lot. But you don’t need GOS to do this and feel the difference.
I got some notifications turned on, but most of em are silent. So they still get delivered, but they’re not time-sensitive. They’ll be there when I check my phone next. I don’t need em interrupting whatever I was doing or thinking.
TL;DR: Be strict about which notifications you allow, and when. It’ll do wonders for your thinking, productivity, and mental health.
Thanks for your thoughts. Totally agree.
I was in the verge of installing GOS but I think there is an issue with a first responder app that we are about to get access to, throwing errors of a phone seems to be rooted or similar, so I’ll have to check that it more. If its a non issue, GOS will be in play.
Interesting. Definitely test it out. Plus, it’s not like GOS is permanent. Your can always revert to OEM Android if needed.
I jumped on their github page and skimmed a few issues, and found this: https://github.com/aeharding/voyager/issues/1027
It looks like they just need to figure out a couple of issues before they implement notifications, so it might happen someday. But taking into account how old these issues are, it’s not their priority.
You’d still be able to just leave it turned off. It’s quite peaceful to lemmy without.
While I am still trying to wean off reddit, seeing the equivalent mail icon light up on threadiverse does not entail dread like on reddit
At least for now since I’ve only been replying to whimsical, silly etc. posts and comments lol
I’ll add to your dose fediverse fun instead of reddit comment regret.
It’s crazy how unmotivated y’all are to form actual social links online. Notifications are actually very important for people who treat platforms interchangeably.
Notifications are actually very important for people who treat platforms interchangeably.
How so? At least, I don’t think that they’re important to Lemmy, as it’s not about real-time person-to-person communication, but rather discussion about topics.
It should probably facilitate discussions then 🤯 you can just silence & deprioritize notifications. The point is having it all in a unified feed. RSS does that well, but adding the RSS notifs of important shit + messages is helpful.
People often need to continue conversations to clarify information & elaborate… I can’t believe I’m saying something this obvious. Shades of Mastodon users justifying suicidal design choices that were later rolled back here.
Nice ad for one of the apps that constantly pushes instances in the World (which blocks VPNs, nice privacy dumbasses!) social graph in multiple interfaces that are not adaptive to user experience
https://lemmy.world/post/11967676
If you encounter an issue where you cannot post or comment, but voting is functioning correctly, it is most likely because we have implemented a block for VPN & Tor users.
Specifically allowing VPN voting 🤔 what a curious choice. Lemmy.world users are so stupid that they don’t even see the difference between having an anonymous account & having their IP scraped by random former Reddit mods. Raised in a barn, perhaps?
I’m not sure what the correct terms are, so I’ll refer to in-app/in-client notifications as internal notifications and mobile-style out-of-app notifications as external notifications.
Based on what people usually refer to with the word “notification” in the context of social applications and messaging services, and your comment, I’m assuming you’re talking about external notifications. If you mean all notifications in general, I’ve misunderstood your point and can ignore the rest of this comment. I do think that internal notifications are useful.
I’m not saying that external notifications are useless, but rather that I don’t feel that they’re as important as you seem to make it out to be.
Also, even if your Lemmy client doesn’t support external notifications, Lemmy supports RSS, which you can subscribe to with a different application.
It should probably facilitate discussions then
Discussions do not have to be between only two people, others can continue where someone else left off.
People often need to continue conversations to clarify information & elaborate…
This is true, but it doesn’t require notifications outside of the client. For example, I noticed your reply as Lemmy’s web UI showed that I had an unread message.
I don’t mind continuing a discussion over multiple days, though I’m not sure if this applies to everyone.
Shades of Mastodon users justifying suicidal design choices that were later rolled back here.
Could you elaborate? I don’t use Mastodon, as I don’t see the value in “micro-blogging” and prefer to follow topics rather than people.
As for the rest of your comment, I too disagree with blocking VPNs & Tor to fix their CSAM problem, but I don’t see how that is relevant to this discussion? Though I do not mind if you want to discuss that instead.
I’m still not sure if those are a second pair of whiskers, or if it’s a Wallace & Gromit style mouth
Is this the app that costs money, or was that a different one? I always forget.
@TachyonTele Voyager was free last I checked, and I havent seen any non-free lemmy apps?
There’s one that costs money and hasnt been updated in years. I can’t remember it’s name though. It was a big deal when it came out.
Sync for Lemmy has a paid version that gets rid of ads. Its developer was one of the most vocal when Reddit started charging developers for access to their API. Sync for Reddit was one of the most popular third-party Reddit apps before then.
Its developer is also absent all the time. They poke their head in every few months, fix a bunch of problems, then disappear into the nether for an indeterminate amount of time.
I actually switched to Voyager because I was annoyed at how difficult it was to get anything fixed on Sync. And of course, Voyager is free.
That’s right it’s sync! Yup that’s exactly the one i was thinking of. Thanks
Maybe Boost?
Voyager is donations only. I donate to it every time a thread like this comes up in the wild.
Yeah, and that’s completely fine. There’s nothing wrong with donations.
Go here and find out https://vger.app/
Voyager is free.
Been using Voyager since it was called Wefwef for both mobile and desktop Lemmy, love it.
Wow same here, had actually forgotten it used to be called WefWef until you mentioned it.
I just installed Voyager yesterday evening. I had to switch instances. On the new instance my old client (Thunder) didn’t load images consistently. I like it so far.
I’m using voyager right now and I love it.
That really is nice, right? I also like when my apps have no mechanism to connect to the internet, so you don’t have to worry about trackers, data exultation, etc.
There’s de-googling and privacy and all…thats all great. But it is a completely separate thing to take back attention from distractions, bullshit notifications and letting tech overlords reach into our daily lives and disrupting our focus and attention whenever they feel like it. Notification real estate is hugely valuable and the default for every app should be “off”, with further fine tuning as needed. Better bulk settings are needed for notification settings adjustment.
I agree completely and believe it’s an issue for people with disabilities too. Hopefully more and more people are taking notice and speaking out. I bet good videos help raise awareness too!
@aeharding@vger.social is a local hero
Hey thanks! ^^
Your name is purple! Witch!
Witch!
They turned me into a newt!
no it doesnt get it, i actually tried to turn it on but they dont have the option :/
notifications off by default is good tho
I too disable notifications on all my news sources. They are reserved for personal connections only.
My dad on the other hand, often doesn’t see my messages, because he has always the notification stack full and doesn’t notice the new ones. Same in E-Mail inbox.
And can we please outlaw pre-selected newsletters? They are annoying anyway, if you don’t actively choose them.
I don’t even bother with most apps anymore unless I have to. I use the Photon UI, so https://p.lazysoci.al/ or https://photon.lemmy.world/
Can you tell me more about that? I was able to see this thread on those links but not familiar with Photon. I searched a bit but a few different techie things came up.
You had me at “don’t even bother with most apps any more…” 😁
The alternative frontends need to be added to a Lemmy server by the admins so not everywhere has them. Lemmy.world has quite a few though which are listed in the sidebar.
