The one thing that doesn’t make sense to me about this is why wouldn’t they plant evidence that the assassin was a leftist or at least a liberal? Wouldn’t that make more sense if the goal was to increase the odds of Trump’s victory? Though it’s possible that they just didn’t bother or tried to but were too incompetent. Either way, I’m not going to say for sure if it was staged or not until we get definitive evidence, but it is plausible.
Then the democrats would want more proof and more scrutiny in the whole process. Now they swipe it under the rug.
My conspiracy theory is Corey Comperatore was a blood sacrifice for Project 2025 ghouls. He was also proof that the gun was loaded with real bullets.
Leading up to the election, Christian fundie social media spaces were stuffed with bible verses (Leviticus and Revelations) and commentary about whether earblood was A Sign. So now they’re shifting the narrative from Trump’s being annointed by god to being the outright antichrist? Even when his supporters seem to be distancing themselves, you can see he’s still the most important person in the world to them. It’s so frigging weird.
To be fair, the Antichrist narrative from everything I have read fits him like a glove. So maybe they are just noticing what was already there as they find ways to de/reprogram themselves
de/reprogram
not exactly deprogramming. Not quite reprogramming either…hmmm … I think they’re distro hopping.
I have a feeling that the handful of pod casters propogating these theories understand thatthey are lying. As for their audience, most of them listen purely for entertainment and some of them are mentally ill.
…since about 1% of the population is schizophrenic, their are about 3 million people in the United States that might think this real.
I’ve said that since day one. There is no way in hell the draft dodging orange chicken shit would stand up and fist pump while under fire. The fucking loser would piss and shit his pants!
Wait until they find out how wet water is!
Not very actually.
Two things stand out that scream staged.
The photographer were ushered into position just under the president right as the US flag was lowered into position in order to get the iconic photo of him with arm raises surrounded by secret service and the flag.
Also somehow the official whiteboard photographer caught a pic of the bullet in mid flight just a foot behind his head
I know journalists like to go to war zones and such but running towards the target of a shooting with no protective gear is not gonna happen. They also just kind of shimmied into position… There wasn’t any real panic
Also the pic of the bullet is just too much… There’s no way
Where else would they put photographers? The whole point of them being there is to take pictures during his blathering.
The more important point you’re missing is the kakistocracy itself. If this was some planned op then we would hear about it from any one of the many people Trump has fired or stiffed.
There are much simpler explanations which need to be considered first, such as Trump’s disregard and disdain for any previous campaign promises coming into conflict with elements of his base who actually believed him enough to feel betrayed.
It was coordinated with whoever operated the crane to lower the flag.
They lowered the flag so it was in the photo.
It was coordinated.
There’s a video of all this . You should watch it
No, you need to actually watch the videos, OP is right, its sketchy as all hell. It’s not like the photographers are already there, some G-Man directs the photographers into position like seconds after it happens.
There’s a photo that has the bullet in mid flight? Is that even optically possible? That should be case closed right off the bat.
Edit: OK I take it back, the photo has it all stretched out as I’d expect.
The shooting was definitely real. The furthest down this conspiracy rabbit hole that I’m willing to go is entertaining the idea that the bloodied ear could have possibly resulted from colliding with SS hip mounted service weapon when he was “tackled” for cover.
That said, no one needs to tell the conspiracy prone MAGA base any of this. He’s spent at least the last decade and a half curating and exploiting the most conspiracy prone (nicest language I can use) people in this country into his following. He deserves worse than this bed he made.
The problem is they’re just gonna go find another cult leader afterwards
The photographers being ushered into perfect position as the flag lowers kind of gives it away
Honestly, I don’t feel like that is an argument for it being staged. Like if there is a real assassination attempt, of course the first thing I would want is a photo of it, even more if I’m campaigning.
Even just when I had a minor accident on a ski slope against a tree, I wanted a photo first before standing up again
Looks like someone has figured out how to manipulate their easily manipulable minds into thinking what has a non-negligible chance to be true.
Wow, I wasn’t expecting so many conspiracy theorists on the leftish side of the political spectrum. That’s concerning.
It all depends on how one uses the theory. It’s good to consider alternative ideas. It’s just when you set yourself on believing one absolute that you have problems.
Guess it was just a matter of time that they’d eventually accept that he wasn’t really helping them or even trying and direct that paranoia back at him. And all that denial to avoid feeling stupid about falling for it is going to be channeled into even more rage.
It was an obvious and clumsy hoax from the moment it happened. It was so obvious, that even MAGA decided to back off, and let it die down. Normally they’d be screaming about it every chance they got, but it went silent within a week.
Trump tried to bring it up a few times during speeches and such, trying to get sympathy, but nobody picked it up, because they don’t want to shine a light on it. The dumbest MAGA motherfuckers bought it, but NOBODY else did. And now even MAGAs are finally admitting that it was a hoax, demonstrating that the whole thing is finally starting to come apart.
And if it was a hoax, then blowing off the head of that scummy MAGA firefighter in front of his entire family was MURDER! So who greenlit this operation? Who planned it? Who supervised it? Who knew about it before, and after? Because ALL those people are on the hook for First Degree Murder charges.
Does this include Biden? Since he controled the secret service that let this happen? No way this could be a conspiracy without him being in on it. Even if the secret service went behind his back, no way he wouldn’t be able to investigate such a fuckup and expose the conspiracy.
Good thing only the secret service have guns, and no other group or individuals could possibly be hired outside of the government
What does Biden have to do with it? He doesn’t control the secret service, and I doubt the Secret Service was in on it anyway.
This was just another incompetent MAGA operation, that barely came off, and didn’t have nearly the result they expected. They though America would be so outraged at an attack on our beloved president, that we would come together and vote for him on a landslide.
Instead, there was overwhelming disappointment that we didn’t get to see his onhead explode on TV, and so they had to go with their first plan to steal the election by flipping votes.
Ah, so this was a planned operation with Trump in on it, but entirely relied on the secret service being incredibly incompetent and getting incredibly lucky. Because the guy who managed to get elected president twice despite being in the Epstein files and in the middle of multiple prosecutions is so incompetent he let some random psycho shoot around him with no plan…
Yeah, that’s pretty much the story. Why would you be surprised? This is MAGA, that’s their normal level of virtuosic incompetence.
As for the Secret Service, don’t give them too much credit. Their best work is done in advance, eliminating threats before they manifest. But when they do have an actual direct attack on POTUS, their record isn’t really that great. Reagan? Shot. Ford? Poor aim, not SS, twice. JFK? Shot. And then you go back to the old ones, like Teddy Roosevelt getting shot and giving his speech anyway.
I can’t think of a single assassination attempt that was thwarted on the scene by the Secret Service. Even if they did, those incidents are outnumbered by their many failures.
Don’t forget, they also critically wounded one MAGA, and literally blew the head off another MAGA. An independent investigation is called for.
Who? Crooks? The dude that was in a BlackRock ad? Lol
I think the one that happened in Butler was a real attempt. But the assassination failed due to the complete and absolutely stupidity of the would-be assassin. Before I continue I need to mention that assassins in general are idiots who succeed primarily due to luck and error on the security’s part than due to their ingenuity.
Crooks (the shooter) was someone who was not particularly known as a decent shot, and the AR-15 that he had was on the lower end of the AR-15 quality hierarchy. This was tested by numerous gun youtubers that the rifle was a shit rifle for anything other than fairly close range shooting. On top of that, the ammunition that he used was also cheap, budget range ammunition, and the cherry on top was that he was using iron sights and didn’t have a telescopic sight, meaning even making a chest shot at that distance was a long shot, let alone hitting a human head, which is already a small, highly mobile target at close range, would be extremely tiny at that distance. The MOA (minute of accuracy) of the rifle and the ammunition used would made a headshot a one in a million hit. If he was being realistic with his own abilities and the weapon/ammunition combo he was using, going for a chest shot would have been the only viable option, but even then, the ammo was weak and likely wouldn’t have produced much cavitation if he did hit at that distance, meaning unless he hit the heart Trump would have likely survived due to the immediate medical attention he would have received.
This is why I am more apt to believe that the Charlie Kirk shooting was more legit. The alleged rifle there was a 30-06 hunting rifle with (according to alleged shooter comments) using a 2000$ scope. The .30-06 caliber is much, much better suited for distance shooting (it can easily kill a human being at 700 meters, with the longest range kill using that caliber was during WW1 at 1.25 kilometers by an American soldier). Also the pricey scope would have made aiming and measuring factors to make the shot (wind, distance, etc) much more readily manageable.
No, MAGA guys don’t think this. Retards think this. One quick scroll through the comments here will tell you that the retards who think this are right here on Lemmy.
Sucks but it’s true, and you’re getting vote-bombed for it.
So edgy
So they’re slowly catching up with reality?
Oh they’re finally catching up? Wait until they hear about the Epstein files
