• Pirate2377@lemmy.zip
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    13 days ago

    Oh right. October 7th is fully justified too, so Israel truly did declare war just because they’re evil money grubbing Zionists, I forgot. There is no such thing as a israeli cilivan since they’re europeans faking being jewish so everyone murdered or kidnapped deserved it and the rapes never happened and the witnesses testifying such are lying whores since they don’t support October 7th happening to them. You’re so right. Also Israel was asking for October 7th to happen because they held a music festival so close to the border. Anyway, Israel is bad so I guess Hamas is completely free from any criticism.

    Anyway, maybe some common ground. We just force the jews…I mean Eurpeons faking their ethnicity to extract resources such as…to Wyoming so we never have to worry about the middle east again since it’ll become a paradise. Deal?

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      13 days ago

      Friendly reminder here that Netanyahu knew in advance that October 7 would happen and the security services were told not to stop it because they wanted justification for what they were planning to do to Palestine anyway.

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        13 days ago

        If true then fuck him too. How does that excuse Hamas’s actions? If I left my door unlocked for Ted Bundy and he ends up raping and murdering my wife, is Ted Bundy all the sudden innocent in this scenario because I let it happen? If anything, this just makes Hamas look really dumb for handing Benjamin Netanyahu a casus belli on a sliver platter.

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      October 7th is fully justified too

      Israel was doing shit to Gaza long before the October 7th thing.

      Anyway, Israel is bad so I guess Hamas is completely free from any criticism.

      Nobody is arguing Hamas are the good guys. Although, I’m pretty sure Hamas was born out of frustration with things Israel was doing in the region. But, by all means, ignore everything else and keep throwing around a bunch of fallacies to justify a genocide.

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        13 days ago

        He said “claims self-defense”, which implies support for Hamas since apparently Israel doesn’t have the right to defend themselves against the groups that constantly attack them because fuck Israel I guess

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          The day Israel end colonization of the West Bank, and lift the blockade on Gaza they will have that right until then only palestinians has the right to self defense

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      The 7 october 2023’s bodycam footage will haunt me when I turn senile.

      It is ignored by most people just like Iran bombing Tel Aviv in october 2024, by Iranian official statements, celebrate Hamas their actions a year prior.

      The current result in Gaza was the only realistic outcome of what started 3 years ago.

      However this is not proportionate and is just making sure this cycle will continue forever by creating a new generation of ‘terrorists’. It is a dumb course of action and even though most of the world hates on Israel for the wrong reasons, the international pressure is valid.

      Israel pretends to be a civilized nation, then it should start acting like it.

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        Yeah, we should pressure Israel internationally to be more civilized like Biden was trying to do by refusing to give new shipment of weapons to Israel and air dropping aid in Gaza to prevent a famine that is now happening today after we as a nation decided he and Harris were Nazis for not going hard enough and instead elected Trump which in comparison just gave Israel a blank check to do whatever the fuck they want. Glad we stopped the genocide in 2024 by letting Trump win

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        This did not start 3 years ago, stop telling lies. Gaza prior to October 7 was still hell. It was an open air concentration camp where Israel regularly deprived the Palestinians of enough food, electricity, and healthcare. They also regularly “mowed the lawn” aka massacre civilians. If you think the Palestinians were supposed to just lie down and take it then you have no regard for their humanity. If their violent resistance on October 7 haunts you, Imagine how haunted the Palestinians are to lose their homes, have their loved ones massacred en masse, be subject to state sanctioned rape and torture in Israeli prisons, and then be told by privileged people outside of their country that they should peacefully let it happen.

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      How about the fact that since the inception of the state of Israel (and even before that really), the Zionists have relegated the people of Palestine as second class citizens? The Nakba? Or are we pretending that the apartheid state did not exist prior to October 7?

      Is it antisemetic to mention the soldiers that have been caught on video gangraping prisoners of war? Sniping children? Double tapping when Red Crescent shows up?

      Shame on you.

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        I don’t even support Israel, I think both sides suck. What I was trying to get across is that apparently arabs can’t ever do anything bad ever because they’re antiwest and thus they are Luke Skywalker and the entire west is the evil empire…apparently. Everything is good guy bad guy, how convenient. Guess America did deserve 9/11 since we are ALL EVIL

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          Plenty of blame to go around to basically everyone in the world, for one thing or another. Arguing whether the US deserved 9/11 is stupid. Most Americans have no idea what lead to the attack. For fucks’ sake, most Americans have no idea that we played a direct role in the creation of the Islamic revolution in Iran.

          We are the baddies.

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            Last I checked, slaves weren’t doing war crimes, were they? Before you say that not all of Palestine is Hamas, I know that. And apparently all Israelis is Benjamin Netanyahu and his adminstation, so I already know we are only ever allowed give chartiability to the side against the western forces, which is why October 7th is fully justified since everyone who died that day is apparently a war criminial

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              Last I checked, slaves weren’t doing war crimes, were they?

              What do you think it was to kill children during the Nat turner revolt was? Do you think the First Nations resistance was always clean? Do you think the allies attacks on the axis was always clean? Actually the allies act of terrorism makes hamas war crimes feel like pinching someone. It is not a justification to say that israel decades of colonization and oppression and act of genocide would result the oppressed toalso commit atrocities in retaliation.

              And apparently all Israelis is Benjamin Netanyahu and his adminstation

              Literally nobody said that except yourself , don’t put word in our mouths

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          Can I come with my family and take your house please? If you agree and give me everything, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN. (btw that’s why 90% of Palestinians in THE WORLD are immirgrants! Palestinain ethnicity is the largest by percentage worldwide!) (btw#2 100% of Israrlis did not come from palestine. Check your grandfather passport because DNA testing is banned.)

          If you resist and you don’t leave, I will take your kids hostage and cut their limps and rape them and torture them for years without trails or any law protecting you. And if you don’t resist and agree to get out but don’t leave the country for any reason, we will put you in refugee tents and what everyone has described as concentration camps since 2000, starve you with low calories, not allow you to leave open air prison, surveille you and control you like slaves, kidnape you and all your family without trails and torture you for years, and just bomb you every other day for the rest of your life, and you will never have any humanrights which my family enjoy. Full genocidal aprthied is what this deal is and you will agree to be on the other end of it.

          And alll of that pre fucking Oct-7.

          Deal? Yes or No? Or according to you “bOtH sIdEs SuCk” … Read history , Where do you think all of Gazans came from? They were ethnically cleansed from what you call Tel Aviv… and until this day you kept them enslaved and slaughterd them like pigs. Open your eyes, those people are humans. You have to now agree to be on the other side of this deal I put up to you.

          Do you want to challenge me to provide real life evidence of everything I said in that paragraph?

          Pick and choose. And alll of that pre fucking Oct-7.

          I will not bring you any story or evidence after Oct-7
          because your history started on oct-7 2023 where 1000 were killed including the gaurds who were jailing and killing them dancing outside their prison. Then you get to genocide 100,000 and maim and injure 200,000 and displace and destroy the homes of 2,000,000 … bUt OcT-7 hAmAs …

          You were brainwashed in a cult. You grew up with stolen supramcist privileges and now your human nature refuses to face the facts of what you’ve been doing and on whom expense you lived your entire life.

          I never met a Zio who naturally defends this shit. They all have something to illegally and unrightfully and inhumanly gain from it, and so much to lose if they opposed it. Never met a Zio who is not paid, no birthright trips, no free home, no free healthcare and college from US taxes, no freedom to literally kill and do whatever evil they want to their Palestinain slaves. I have yet to see one who is inhumanly supramacist and genocidal because it makes sense or right… because no it is not.

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            This is where I will agree 100%. Isreal shouldn’t have formed in the first place by kicking people out. Now that it is here though, where do we send the Jews after Hamas kicks them out? Iraq? Or is America unironically going to try yet another regime change in the middle east because third times the charm I guess because that is only way things will end without a genocide from either side. America or another super power declaring war on a NUCLEAR POWER and annexing everything because Hamas sure as fuck doesn’t want equal rights for jews.

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          The children getting massacred and the ones that are doing it both suck?

          Apparently you are all fucking evil. Don’t breed. Genuinely.

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            Oh damn, you got me. I am pro child murder and I’m going to breed just to kill my own children because Hamas doesn’t have my full fledged support on everything they do /s