Well you know that is funny because I guess I’m more able to step back and look at the big picture from a rational standpoint; you know, logically looking at every single issue:
Are Democrats better than Republicans on support for Ukraine against the Russian Genocide? — Yes.
Are Democrats better than Republicans on LGBTQ+ Rights? — Yes.
Are Democrats better on women’s rights and abortion rights — Yes.
Are Democrats better on antitrust? — Yes. (See what they did to Ticketmaster and what Trump reversed).
Are Democrats better than Republicans on Climate Change — Yes. (Republicans backed out of Paris Climate Agreement)
Are Democrats better at handling global pandemics? — Yes. (better science adherence; Republicans backed out of WHO).
Are Democrats better at not committing January 6’s? — Yes.
Is ALL opposition to Palestinian genocide in government from Democrats? (Abdul, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Tlaib, etc.) — YES.
So, anyone who is not supporting Democrats over Republicans is of course enabling an objectively-worse party and President (Trump). I mean if I was Palestinian I certainly would take my choice of any Democrat over any Republican! Worse than that, they are objectively stating that they do not care about the other issues mentioned (and this is non-exhaustive).
Single-issue voters are bad, even when it comes to allegations of genocide (because there is a gradient to even one genocide, let alone the second you conveniently neglect to discuss).
Thus, the default position should be: Anyone willing to allege Republicans are equal or better than Democrats should be treated as a nazi because their ill-logic in fact supports the worst evil, the nazi.
(It’s kinda like that saying, “If there’s a nazi at a table and ten other people there, you got 11 nazis.” Well, if you have a nazi, a Dem, and someone saying “BoTh SiDes!”, then you’ve got 2 nazis.)
I respect Massie’s decision to stand up on this (as I have Kinzinger and Liz Cheney for sacrificing their seats to try to hang on to Democracy). The problem is that Massie lost his Republican Primaries race and will thus is guaranteed to not be holding his seat when the next Congressional term starts. Republicans voted Massie out for protesting; Democrats kept the likes of Tlaib in.
Except maybe to your J6 point. Trump goons tried (and failed) to achieve their aims, but Democrats haven’t tried at all, so -1:0?
Are Democrats better than Republicans on support for Ukraine against the Russian Genocide?
Liberals and labelling everything a genocide in order to cheapen the term: classic.
The war in Ukraine would not have happened if it werent for the agressive postering of the democrats, so I’m gonna have to say no.
Are Democrats better than Republicans on LGBTQ+ Rights?
Yeah man that’s why they throw trans people and drag queens under the bus every chance they get. Thats why their response to persecution is that “they should follow the law.” That’s why their takeaway from losing the election is that they were too woke. When the republicans aren’t targeting queer people, then the democrats are.
Gonna say no again.
Are Democrats better on women’s rights and abortion rights.
Yeah like when they codified Roe v. Wade. Or like when they did anything to stop Roe v. Wade to get overturned.
Gonna give it a no.
Are Democrats better on antitrust? — Yes.
Talk about single-issue and then narrow the scope to this lol. The democrats are just as bad at strike breaking and being anti-union. The democrats are just as beholden to corporate interests. (See how they never affect any actual change, like with Ticketmaster.)
Big old no again.
Are Democrats better than Republicans on Climate Change — Yes. (Republicans backed out of Paris Climate Agreement)
The famous Paris Agreement! The do-nothing treaty with no punishment for breaking it, which the democrats did nothing to uphold when they were part of it! What did they do though? Whoops thats right, massive fracking contracts, expanded military and so on and so forth. Another no.
Are Democrats better at handling global pandemics? — Yes. (better science adherence; Republicans backed out of WHO).
So far the main example to take would be COVID which had lockdown initiated under Trump, had Trump hand out more stimulus checks, and the lockdown was lifted by a democrat president, despite the fact the pandemic was - and is - still ongoing. Under a democrat president the public tracking of COVID was wound down until it was made accessible only with wastewater-records, which were then also made nearly impossible to access and use. Gotta say that does not seem like a government capable of handling a pandemic, gotta make it a no.
Are Democrats better at not committing January 6’s? — Yes.
Seems like an argument against Democrats, since you’re arguing that republicans are insane power hungry fascists looking to take complete, total, permanent power. Kinda seems like the democrats should have some sort of opposition prepared.
Is ALL opposition to Palestinian genocide in government from Democrats? (Abdul, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Tlaib, etc.) — YES.
BERNIE SANDERS? Mister “both sides”? Alright, you’ve lost the plot. In your eyes saying “Netanyahu bad” is enough. And even then this is once again a pathetic attempt at moving goal posts. Was the party committing a genocide? Yes. Is the party supporting the genocide still? Also Yes.
I mean if I was Palestinian I certainly would take my choice of any Democrat over any Republican!
If you were a Palestinian you would be too busy burying your family and scrounging for scraps of food to be able to give a shit about what color political party does the bombing and starving, you absolute freak.
Single-issue voters are bad, even when it comes to allegations of genocide.
Should have guessed from your “Russian genocide” that you were some variation of liberal zionist.
NEWSFLASH ASSHOLE: YOU ARE A SINGLE-ISSUE VOTER, YOUR ISSUE IS “not Trump”.
As has been painstakingly detailed, people opposing Democrats due to genocide are not single-issue, it is just the ultimate issue and even that is one Democrats cannot do basic shit on.
Well, if you have a nazi, a Dem, and someone saying “BoTh SiDes!”, then you’ve got 2 nazis.
Is ALL opposition to Palestinian genocide in government from Democrats? (Abdul, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Tlaib, etc.) — YES.
What are you talking about? You know that Republicans like MTG exist right? And you know that AOC herself voted against MTG’s Iron Dome defunding bill right?
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Iron Dome is purely a defensive asset to protect civilians; anyone who cares about children would do the same.
The only reason Israel can bomb other nations to hell as much as they want is the Iron Dome dipshit, and Israeli citizens are civillians as much as Afrikaners are civillians. If they want peace, they can get the fuck out of some random Palestinian’s house and go back to Europe.
This is the first time I’m hearing “Won’t somebody think of the Israeli children” too, so congratulations on that note as well.
Please directly answer and acknowledge your mistake in reading my original comment:
“in government” — did you see that part?
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Yes I care about children no matter where they live. Only people who are fucked in the head would say otherwise.
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Yeah, I’ll concede on that, though it appears that she didn’t get kicked out but resigned instead.
Yes I care about children no matter where they live. Only people who are fucked in the head would say otherwise.
Nobody is trying to murder children in the region except for Israel asshat. As I said in my previous response, the Iron Dome only works to prevent retaliation from neighbouring countries so that Israel can murder and pillage as much as it wants. Your shitty attempts at “Think of the children” don’t work on this platform. If Israel is so worried about that, then it can stop doing genocide, and its people can get the fuck out of Palestinian homes.
Until then, you’ll keep voting for those who help the Nazis of today. Congrats! Lesser evil, amirite? 😜
Well you know that is funny because I guess I’m more able to step back and look at the big picture from a rational standpoint; you know, logically looking at every single issue:
So, anyone who is not supporting Democrats over Republicans is of course enabling an objectively-worse party and President (Trump). I mean if I was Palestinian I certainly would take my choice of any Democrat over any Republican! Worse than that, they are objectively stating that they do not care about the other issues mentioned (and this is non-exhaustive).
Single-issue voters are bad, even when it comes to allegations of genocide (because there is a gradient to even one genocide, let alone the second you conveniently neglect to discuss).
Thus, the default position should be: Anyone willing to allege Republicans are equal or better than Democrats should be treated as a nazi because their ill-logic in fact supports the worst evil, the nazi.
(It’s kinda like that saying, “If there’s a nazi at a table and ten other people there, you got 11 nazis.” Well, if you have a nazi, a Dem, and someone saying “BoTh SiDes!”, then you’ve got 2 nazis.)
In line with everyone else’s beef, I think Thomas Massie counts as being … Well, maybe not anti-genocide, but certainly anti-Israel.
Every other point seems to check out, as grim and reluctant as Democrat support may be.
Except maybe to your J6 point. Trump goons tried (and failed) to achieve their aims, but Democrats haven’t tried at all, so -1:0?
I respect Massie’s decision to stand up on this (as I have Kinzinger and Liz Cheney for sacrificing their seats to try to hang on to Democracy). The problem is that Massie lost his Republican Primaries race and will thus is guaranteed to not be holding his seat when the next Congressional term starts. Republicans voted Massie out for protesting; Democrats kept the likes of Tlaib in.
haha fair enough
Liberals and labelling everything a genocide in order to cheapen the term: classic.
The war in Ukraine would not have happened if it werent for the agressive postering of the democrats, so I’m gonna have to say no.
Yeah man that’s why they throw trans people and drag queens under the bus every chance they get. Thats why their response to persecution is that “they should follow the law.” That’s why their takeaway from losing the election is that they were too woke. When the republicans aren’t targeting queer people, then the democrats are.
Gonna say no again.
Yeah like when they codified Roe v. Wade. Or like when they did anything to stop Roe v. Wade to get overturned.
Gonna give it a no.
Talk about single-issue and then narrow the scope to this lol. The democrats are just as bad at strike breaking and being anti-union. The democrats are just as beholden to corporate interests. (See how they never affect any actual change, like with Ticketmaster.)
Big old no again.
The famous Paris Agreement! The do-nothing treaty with no punishment for breaking it, which the democrats did nothing to uphold when they were part of it! What did they do though? Whoops thats right, massive fracking contracts, expanded military and so on and so forth. Another no.
So far the main example to take would be COVID which had lockdown initiated under Trump, had Trump hand out more stimulus checks, and the lockdown was lifted by a democrat president, despite the fact the pandemic was - and is - still ongoing. Under a democrat president the public tracking of COVID was wound down until it was made accessible only with wastewater-records, which were then also made nearly impossible to access and use. Gotta say that does not seem like a government capable of handling a pandemic, gotta make it a no.
Seems like an argument against Democrats, since you’re arguing that republicans are insane power hungry fascists looking to take complete, total, permanent power. Kinda seems like the democrats should have some sort of opposition prepared.
BERNIE SANDERS? Mister “both sides”? Alright, you’ve lost the plot. In your eyes saying “Netanyahu bad” is enough. And even then this is once again a pathetic attempt at moving goal posts. Was the party committing a genocide? Yes. Is the party supporting the genocide still? Also Yes.
If you were a Palestinian you would be too busy burying your family and scrounging for scraps of food to be able to give a shit about what color political party does the bombing and starving, you absolute freak.
Should have guessed from your “Russian genocide” that you were some variation of liberal zionist.
NEWSFLASH ASSHOLE: YOU ARE A SINGLE-ISSUE VOTER, YOUR ISSUE IS “not Trump”.
As has been painstakingly detailed, people opposing Democrats due to genocide are not single-issue, it is just the ultimate issue and even that is one Democrats cannot do basic shit on.
On that we agree. The nazi and the dem are nazis.
I really don’t need to read any further when someone endorses blatant genocide perpetrated by russia and funded by China and North Korea.
True colors and blatant hypocrisy showing.
What are you talking about? You know that Republicans like MTG exist right? And you know that AOC herself voted against MTG’s Iron Dome defunding bill right?
“in government” — did you see that part?
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Iron Dome is purely a defensive asset to protect civilians; anyone who cares about children would do the same.
The only reason Israel can bomb other nations to hell as much as they want is the Iron Dome dipshit, and Israeli citizens are civillians as much as Afrikaners are civillians. If they want peace, they can get the fuck out of some random Palestinian’s house and go back to Europe.
This is the first time I’m hearing “Won’t somebody think of the Israeli children” too, so congratulations on that note as well.
Please directly answer and acknowledge your mistake in reading my original comment:
“in government” — did you see that part?
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Yes I care about children no matter where they live. Only people who are fucked in the head would say otherwise.
Yeah, I’ll concede on that, though it appears that she didn’t get kicked out but resigned instead.
Nobody is trying to murder children in the region except for Israel asshat. As I said in my previous response, the Iron Dome only works to prevent retaliation from neighbouring countries so that Israel can murder and pillage as much as it wants. Your shitty attempts at “Think of the children” don’t work on this platform. If Israel is so worried about that, then it can stop doing genocide, and its people can get the fuck out of Palestinian homes.
Until then, you’ll keep voting for those who help the Nazis of today. Congrats! Lesser evil, amirite? 😜
You’re saying Hamas didn’t directly target and murder children on October 7?
You’re saying errant unguided rockets from Palestine couldn’t hit children?
You’ve become the very thing you hate in your zealotry.
Ah, you’re a liberal Zionist. That makes sense.
“We need to keep funding Nazi Germany’s defense systems, because otherwise an incoming missile might just kill a Nazi child.”
I have no more words left for you.