• ジン@quokk.au
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    16 days ago

    This article is a bit tough to understand. What is the expected logic of such practices? I know its a horrific phenomenon all-around, but what was even the initial idea of how this could possibly be a net good for any entity involved?

  • mHtt@lemmy.ca
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    16 days ago

    sodomy in US prisons is a JOKE to Americans.

    ever hear one of them say: ‘dont drop the soap’ like its something to laugh about?

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      15 days ago

      Been to jail. Dropping soap is a real thing when theres also dudes who will try to get new people locked in their personal cell during shift change for an hour.

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    16 days ago

    Also keep in mind: trans women are toys in prison. They want to keep them in longer, they give them sex offender charges for resisting (the trans sexual predator claim comes from this partly, other than that is that many trans women turn to prostitution to survive, which is a sex offence)

    On top of that, BOP policy is to cut off hormones and do conversion torture. So they toss you in a cell to be raped like a woman, while trying to torture you into not being one.

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      Cutting of hormones is worse than simply forcing a detransition. Suddenly stopping produces effects similar to menopause until her natural testosterone return to typical male levels. Depending on what other procedures she has had done, a transwomen without artificial hormones may never return to healthy hormone levels for either gender.

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Rape is practically universal in US prisons. The problem is vastly underreported, we’ll never know the true extent of it. It’s not just inmates (of all kinds), the guards revel in it.

    … and we have more prisoners than any other country, there are millions of inmates.

    Of course, we could make the guards wear cameras with every room being monitored, but I guess why bother? We’re not going to charge them anyway.

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      15 days ago

      Our entire culture is one of raping. We rape the land, our neighboring countries, the oceans, the financial system, and each other in every way conceivable.

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    16 days ago

    2017 study by the Sylvia Rivera Law Project found that 75% of trans women respondents in New York state prisons were subjected to sexual violence by a correctional officer

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    16 days ago

    wait until folks comprehend who has the highest incarcerated population on this planet.

    • yucandu@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      I always like to point out that it’s just the highest reported incarcerated population on the planet. There’s countries way bigger than America that don’t have as much freedom of information, like we’re reading right now.

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    17 days ago

    That was one of the hardest reads for such a relatively short article with not too many unfamiliar words. Fucking hell. Every American should read it.

    • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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      16 days ago

      No. The US is very much a first world country. It’s literally the definition. It is the US.

      And this is what a capitalist country does. This is what first world countries look like.

      • dom@lemmy.ca
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        16 days ago

        Nah. The Scandinavian countries are what I consider true first world.

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          16 days ago

          Help us out: what do you think “First World,” “Second World,” and “Third World” actually mean? The terms referred to cold war political alignment: the U.S.-led bloc, the Soviet-led bloc, and countries aligned with neither. It was not a tidy ranking from rich and civilized to poor and backward.

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            16 days ago

            I mean it in the colloquial sense based on how well taken care of the people are. No I am not writing a dissertation. This is a discussion on a message board where people may use hyperbole to make their opinion clear

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            16 days ago

            Yes those were the original definitions but colloquial usage has shifted from the original meaning. Although these days the preferred terminology is developed/developing/under developed.

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            16 days ago

            I agree with you and you are correct but this is linguistic prescriptivism, which is one of the things the what is a woman crowd cling to

            but the other people using third wold country to mean allows sex abuse makes my skin crawl

            Examine your preconceived ideas, before they examine you

            • dom@lemmy.ca
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              15 days ago

              I did not mean third world to mean that, but rather in the colloquial sense of how much a country takes care of its people.

              Understood that so many on this platform strictly care about historical definitions and prescriptive language policing though

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                Being more concerned with the words used than the intended meaning is an internetism that harms us all. I’m guilty of this too…

                It’s tricky though, because words have meaning- and that meaning really depends on context. Not just the context in which it’s spoken, but also the context is the one speaking it. And often people online who think they’re arguing are really just misunderstanding each other’s definitions.

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                  15 days ago

                  You’re absolutely right. In this instance I mistakenly thought it was obvious for most that I did not mean im the strict literal definition. Oh well, no big deal

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      16 days ago

      Jesus America is a third world country backwards shithole filled with evil fucktards.

      FTFY

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      16 days ago

      No, they aren’t and that is the sad thing. They could be a great country. They choose this instead.

  • Jessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    17 days ago

    That’s insane. I don’t have it in me right now to look further into this. I’m sure there are plenty of testimonies and accounts that are terrible and difficult to read. I just can’t. The spectre of that being part of the deal for our incarcerated sisters makes me fear prison even more.