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    unless you search for it or a repo that lives on it explicitly

    Skill issue indeed. Reading comprehension, specifically.

    Let me spell it out:

    1. You won’t find Codeberg in searches unless you know it exists already, or already know of a specific tool that is hosted there.
    2. Euro-Office creators probably want people to discover their tool as much as possible.
    3. Hosting the tool on a platform that doesn’t come up in searches due to its relative obscurity is therefore a bad idea.
    4. Euro-Office creators chose not to do that.

    the vapid useless SEO-optimized articles that you find

    “This year will be the year of the Linux desktop Codeberg!”

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      I don’t need to know that foot is hosted on codeberg. Searching for its source code reveals that it’s hosted there.

      I do not need to know that euro office is hosted on github, searching for its source code reveals that it’s hosted there.

      If you search on github itself that is your fault. If the goal is digital sovereignty for europe, hosting code on an american-owned forge when a perfectly viable european one exists is idiotic.

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        foot… Searching for it

        euro office… searching for it

        Whether you like the SEO-driving search engine providers or not, they are still the way that most people find things on the internet, and they prioritize Github results. When you’re not searching for “it”, but just searching them by describing things like it, (of which there are many, mostly on Github), it serves your interest to ‘O’ for the ‘SEs’ by putting it somewhere that will get prioritized higher.

        If the goal is digital sovereignty for europe

        Sovereignty is exercised and evidenced by a state’s ability to enforce the laws they have created. Microsoft operates within Europe. As long as Europe can enforce their laws upon Microsoft (as they can and do now), that relationship is still an exercise of European sovereignty.

        Back to my first comment in the thread, “sovereignty != isolation”. Cutting yourself off from external groups does not make you “more sovereign” or something. If Europe cannot enforce their laws upon foreign business entities operating in their jurisdictions, and thus choose to prioritize Europe-headquartered businesses, that would be evidence of far weaker sovereign control of their jurisdiction.

        Now, if it’s just a matter of prioritizing supporting European businesses, (call it, say, “Europe First”, or maybe “Make Europe Gr…” oh wait) that’s fine for them to do, and supporting any smaller business or organization over a large one is almost always preferable, but that isn’t and shouldn’t be about the perception of sovereignty or about nationalism, it should be about fighting back against corporate power by not rewarding these de facto monopolies and political meddlers and manipulators with your business.

        But once again, that’s not within the scope (or ability) of a simple Office-alike application.