The administration of lemmy.ml routinely abuses its rule 1 anti-bigotry policy to conduct political censorship, deleting documented facts regarding the ukraine invasion, holodomor, and xinjiang abuses under false pretexts of imperialist propaganda, misinformation, and nazism while leaving pro-Kremlin talking points untouched.
Verifiable public moderation logs prove this systemic shielding of state propaganda, down to moderators inverting standard geopolitical context, such as noting that fringe extremist units do not make an entire democratic nation fascist, to ban dissenters under the explicit excuse of being a Nazi.
https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=25800386 and https://lemmy.world/modlog/446?page=1&actionType=All&userId=20355358.
The Europe community moderator (https://lemmy.world/u/geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml), who focuses exclusively on criticizing the West and never Russia or China, banned me as a Nazi.
I decided to block the lemmy.ml instance entirely to avoid any further interaction.
I see that there are dozens of relevant posts; you can find the relevant report posts here
- https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
- https://lemmy.world/post/5697017
- https://lemmy.world/post/50302822
- https://lemmy.world/post/13238608
- https://lemmy.world/post/43978041
Log screenshots
It is so blatantly obvious. Worse than the_donald was on reddit. Pure Chinese and Russia propaganda. Overtly negative on anything from the west and won’t allow anything negative about Russia, China, etc.
I’ve blocked all .lm instances and even now piefed. The creator or piefed bans anyone who criticizes his dumb ass decisions. Well that’s fine, there a reason the entirety of piefed as a software has been decreasing population.
Also there are occasional mods that just love to jerk themselves. The dumb taco truck mod on the Star Trek instance will ban you if you say you don’t like new Star Trek, but that dumbass just moderates two mostly dead communities, so it’s okay
The mods do whatever they want, many break their own posted rules with regularity.
In my experience, in Lemmy they are more apt to delete a comment than ban, so that is nice.
There’s no logic to it. I’ve said “The nation ___________ says this, their motto is ___________ … (and then repeat their own slogan from their own officials).”
Delete. 100% true, easily verifiable everywhere, public information pertaining to the discussion, deleted.
So, if you’re censored or banned, that just means that you’re a thinking person with reasonable opinions who bases your conclusions on the factual information available to you.
It’s a good thing. Thank God.
If they agree with you, please get help immediately. Time is short.
I’m just a user here bit three days ago I was banned from some community without any explanation. Some moderator accused me of being a rapist because of one comment that they deleted and no one could read. After some comments trying to find out what was happening, I was banned. I didn’t see before, but in that community, in the blahaj something instance, they warn something like ‘no tankies’. I’m in lemmy.ml, and I guess that males.me a tankie.
This instance wars are bullshit.
Did you randomly join Lemmy.ml without knowing what it was? If so, that sucks. If you’re not too attached to your account, you could just create a new one on Lemmy.today or something and be rid of the ml baggage.
I mean when I joined .world I didn’t know it was going to be a neoliberal smorgasbord. I just stick around and do the laziness mostly.
well, lemmy.ml has a significant userbase acting as “tankies”, and in turn other instances are overly suspicious of anyone from ml, but I can’t blame them for that. the “tankies” they speak about just make new accounts when they find out people started blocking them. It’s such a shame that new users mostly end up on ml. the devs are enjoying that they can use it to spread their politics, and make controversy in the fediverse.
They should defederate. They are treating everyone in ML like shit. And why would I change to an instance that treats people like shit, anyway? Isn’t that the problem in the first place? What I do is just strip apart the instance part in usernames and treat everyone as equals, fuck, I must be a commie. BTW, my account is 6 yo, you know, when lemmy.ml was basically the only instance with some certainty around.
You don’t have to change your instance but you willingly live in a shit hole and we will treat you like you live in a shit hole. You are free to move at any time. It would cost you nothing. There is no sacredivity to having an older account, I’ve been through to others because my original two instances have since closed. There is no karma. There is no score. There is only here and now.
Let me tell you. It’s not about my account, it’s exactly this: as soon as they don’t agree with others, users like you start treating others like shit. Why would I want to go to an instance to share my time with people like you? Lol, no, thank you. You are now in my blocked users list.
Yep I don’t immediately assume someone from ml is a tankie, but it’s going to make me more wary that even normal stuff they say is just being a mask on tankie.
Funny, I just had a thread going about the same thing happening in the “LateStageCapitalism” instance……
u/godlesscommie, where are you? Gonna come onto this thread to bitch and moan as well?
I mean these people are incredibly stupid but I probably also would’ve given a temp ban (but I also probably would’ve banned the people saying “both sides!!!”). That community is there to moan about capitalism’s failings, and your posts didn’t really fit there. It’s like going into a support group for women and saying men also have these problems, even if you’re right these people feel like they’ve been failed by the system so you have to take a softer tone.
His reasoning for deleting my comment was “democrats are fascists.”
During a literal republican fascist regime.
There isn’t a tone soft enough to deal with lunacy.
So you went into a community, you made a bunch of posts that are literally against the rules of the community and frankly the tone of the posts are antithetical to the point of the community. It’s called late stage capitalism. What did you think they thought?
This is straight up troll Behavior. I would have banned you too.
A bunch of posts? I wrote a conversation provoking comment that was upvoted far more than downvoted, and spurred other comments.
it was removed because the mod has an anti-democratic agenda that they can’t defend. Instead they just remove comments and ban people. It’s shitty behavior by a shitty mod, and deserves to be called out. I’ve seen 2 other threads talking about this exact behavior.
Thought-provoking comment, my goodness. Isn’t there a cookie you’re supposed to be beating off onto somewhere.
Your comments were directly and obviously against the rules of the community. You went there to troll. I don’t know why you’re lying about it.
This literally just happened to me in the memes instance of .ml
Being banned by those shit-heels is a badge of honor and intelligence. Congrats!
Obviously.
Replicate absolute power among admins and their moderators and expect abuses of power. This is inherent to the design of Reddit, and since Lemmy copied much from Reddit this aspect of its design has been replicated here.
You guys are still federated with those reactionaries??
It’s basically a rite of passage for a new lemmy user to get banned from half of .ml for a completely mundane comment they made.
Let’s normalize shaming and shunning individuals, like geneva_convenience in this example, over ridiculing an entire community.
Communities are not monolithic.
Let’s normalize shaming and shunning individuals, like geneva_convenience in this example, over ridiculing an entire community.
and they will just nake a new account when they realize people are blocking them.
Communities are not monolithic.
Communities have moderation policies, and they have the power to discourage such behavior. if a community does not act against it, they are accepting it.
You do realize admins “on the left” are doing the exact same thing, methodically deleting posts with facts they don’t like? For example /u/little_cow@lemmy.world, which looks like some alt account used specifically to delete posts. Are you going to defederate lemmy.world as well?
This is nothing new under the sun.
An individual could block .ml instances, but I choose not to so I could keep calling out their bs. It’s not win an argument and stoke my ego, but it is for any would reader to see how nonsensical .ml users themselves and their ideas are.
Problem is it takes infinity research to call out some of this stuff, and they can usually weasel into some stupid word games, like “tankie just means communist!”
Because that’s what they want you to do. They gish gallop and you end up having to rebut all the point to tire you out. My experience over the years with extremists on all sides is to call out their bad faith tactics and cut the chase. For example, with the Uyghur issue, tankies always claim that the accusation of genocide only came from one complainant and the West supoosedly chose to blow it out of proportions. But that talking point easily falls apart because it’s not just one, but hundreds and thousands of complaints. Most people would rather get on with their lives than waste time with making false accusations. There are far too many to ignore and where there is smoke there is fire.
everyone already knows this, it’s their instance and they aren’t being racist so who cares?
Racism: The only bad thing a human can do.
They’re literally defending imperialist nations that tread human, and particularly LGBTQ+ rights with their feet.
Anyone who is pro Russia is anti LGBTQ+ and pro Imperialism.
can people not have pride in their nationality?
Marxists are explicitly not nationalists specifically because once you incorporate that it becomes basically indistinguishable from fascism.
There’s difference between pride in ones nationality, and defending an explicitly anti lgtbq and pro Imperialist fascist government
Why should they?
IDK, same reason some people have pride in sportsball teams?
There needs to be a list of instances that defederate lemmy.ml by default. It’s not just a single community, it is at the admin level.
What is this thread even. Blocking an entire instance, because a single community member annoyed somebody? I mean, sure, go ahead…
ML simply happens to be the instance hosted by the developers of entire Lemmy, so they spend the bare minimum on post moderation, because they have the bigger picture to focus on.
Now the screenshots show that a “mod” took action. A “mod” can be literally anybody appointed by the current mods of a community. Anybody can create a community, just like on Reddit, so this could literal have been anybody. You’ll encounter similar bans on other instances in time as they grow too, because people are free to make sub-rules to their communities, essentially each “mod” having their little dictatorship.
I get banned from the instance too. Can I community-ban from the entire instance? No? Ban reason is in the same post
blocking an entire instance
Don’t worry, I already have lol.
Haven’t seen a single .ml post in months, I no longer need to see posts arguing:
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the Uyghur’s aren’t being genocided
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uncle Kim’s totally communist state do not punish entire families for an individuals crimes
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Hamas are misunderstood freedom fighters.
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Nah, they’re tankies, they have an agenda.
Everyone with a working brain has an agenda
My agenda is already booked with useless meetings unfortunately
We know, you’re an .ml user
Defederate lemmy.ml
I had one .ml mod delete a comment of mine because I listed events that disagreed with them minimizing the horrors of 1986 republicans. They stated your average '86 republican was further left than 2026 average dem. So I blocked that mod and that channel.
So I guess .ml are apologists for the '86 gop now?
Tankies: we’re leftists!
Also tankies: Reagan wasn’t that bad
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
Y’all really need to come to terms with the fact that tankies are just conservatives larping.
