• Erna_muse@lemmy.zip
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    6 days ago

    What if we execute him with a bag over his head but his nipples are out. That would be kind of progressive.

  • tigermountain@lemmy.world
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    No. We’re not a barbaric nation. It’s this particular administration. And if someone says it’s the people who voted for them you should first consider how people can be manipulated into believing the world is something that it’s not.

  • GreenBean@lemmy.today
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    There needs to be a distinction made. This action is one formed and put in action by the Administration - not by We or Us. Election of the “potus” is questionable. He and his minions spit upon the US Constitution. We The People pay the taxes and foot the bill for whatever Congress and the current Administration, renegade politicians, decide to do. They DO NOT represent the people. Once elected, they act as they wish, how they swayed by lobbyists and their political parties. I was aghast when I heard this was to occur and I am no bleeding heart when it comes to capital punishment. This takes us back to burning the condemned at the stake or were beheaded while villagers crowded to enjoy the spectacle.

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      Straight newrepublic link for me, either OP changed this within 12 minutes of your comment before I loaded the page, or something weird is going on for you, maybe some sort of caching and you got an older version of the post? Which client do you use?

      • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
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        Oh, I wasn’t clear.

        Pointing out irony. The sidebar shows the rules for the community and that article. Today I’m using FF as my client. Usually Jerboa.

        The image is a direct refutation of the usage of “IF” in this context. It was a funny juxtaposition.

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          Oh gotcha, I didn’t realize you were pointing out the contents of that article, rather than the rule lol

  • minorkeys@sh.itjust.works
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    That America is planning to do it already proves barbarism. Just like Republicans don’t need a successful fascist takeover to prove they are fascists. They already are.

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    No if. You run torture camps where you detain people you’ve kidnapped from around the world. You kill innocent fishermen with navy seals. You murder entire weddings in drone strikes. You bomb baby food factories. You arm the Indonesians to carry out a genocide in East Timor. You drop chemical weapons on Vietnam. You bomb Cambodia and Laos, rendering about a million homeless. You kill one million in Iraq. You fund a genocide in Palestine. You fund a genocide in Guatemala. You bombed Yugoslavia when a diplomatic alternative that you proposed is on the table. You’ve turned Libya into an open air slave market. You’ve had Cuba in an economic stranglehold for decades, culminating in the current crisis. You’re the only nation that ever dropped an atomic bomb on civilian centers, and you did it twice. Six figure death toll those days alone. There’s no if. You’re a barbaric shitstain of a nation. Death to America.

  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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    Much of the world wants to see the US destroyed. We earned that, but because of that we pretty much have to make attempts to strike fear into our enemies. I have a problem with America’s history of foreign policy, but I don’t have a problem with the death penalty. I’m of the opinion that certain actions a person can take should absolutely make them fear the consequences of their actions.

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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      So how long until you’re okay with an innocent person being put to death?

      Also, why does someone else get the right to choose to end another person’s life? What’s the difference between a man pulling a trigger at a bar killing someone, and a judge deeming they deserve to die for it? What makes the judge have the right to decide who lives and who dies, but some dude in a bar can’t?

    • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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      Harsh punishment doesn’t deter crime because most criminals are like “of course I won’t get caught” and/or they’re super desperate.

      Personally, I think the death penalty ought to be banned simply because the court system isn’t perfect. Innocent people can, will, & have been executed.

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    If a country is executing its own citizens, that country is already a barbaric nation.

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    the US has streamed several executions already. they just happened to be extrajudicial carried out by police/ICE

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        When police body cameras are always on and you execute someone, you’re not streaming it “accidentally”. You know you have a camera on your body while you murder someone and choose to do it anyway.

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          This is a really odd argument that I can’t understand, there is a categorical difference between an official broadcast of a scheduled execution and the video from a police body camera being released following the police killing someone. I don’t understand how you can say they are the same thing, whether the cop remembers in the moment they have a camera on is irrelevant. Capturing an incident as part of routine recording and then releasing that video after the fact is not at all like scheduling an execution and broadcasting it live for the world to watch.

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            I don’t understand how you can say they are the same thing

            The people doing the killing knows the cameras are on, watching their actions. And they go ahead and kill someone anyway.

            Just because the US justice system hides tax payer paid public servants from concealing their lawfully required body cam footage is a US justice problem. But the cops know they’re being recorded at all times and they’ll kill an unarmed civilian anyway.

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              I am not following. From my perspective, the people doing the killing are in very different circumstances and the purpose of the cameras are completely different. The message being sent with an execution being conducted like this seems completely different than the message being sent when there is a release of bodycam footage showing police killing someone.

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    Let’s quit pretending like we’re not! It doesn’t mean we all are or that we are all the time, but we fucking are!

    The only way we can truly change things is by coming to terms with reality.

    America is light and dark.

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      I always thought their oath of allegiance, done every day in school, sounded so much like something kids in North Korea would be forced to do.

      This is just another thing to add to the pile.

      • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml
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        Lol the fact that you’re even comparing them to a country that they literally genocided speaks to the effectiveness of American propaganda. Glad y’all eyes are starting to open up, but America has always been the evil country doing evil things lol.