One of the most historic studios is closing down. Unfortunately it was dead long ago. Fuck EA

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Yeah, exactly what we expected to happen when Saudis bought it.

    Saudis are Islamic, there are no pride parades in Saudi Arabia. There will be no more “secular” games from Electronic Arts, so somehow EA has found a way to suck even more.

    The Saudis are an embarrassing US ally, not even getting into the royal family. They’re no better than Iran in my opinion.

    I can understand doing business with them, I think trade is the best way to open doors and find common ground. But an ally?

    It’s against my religion.

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    3 days ago

    Fun fact: same-sex sexual activity, both male and female, is not only illegal in Saudi Arabia, it is a capital offense punishable by death.

    Fun fact: Bioware’s parent company, Electronic Arts, is now owned by Saudis.

    • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 days ago

      I am still kind of interested how long the sims will still exist in its current form under the new leadership

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        2 days ago

        They just won’t make The Sims.

        The Saudis won’t touch it or anything like it. They have the death penalty for adultery, The Sims is unacceptable (at least, the sims that we know).

        They might have a Sharia Law version where the fully-covered women juggle raising children and making meals to please their husband.

        They will make games for their market (and China).

        Sims is a US-market-game that is against Islamic law.

        Instead, they can make FIFA and other sports games and shooters. I doubt they’ll even make RPGs as we know them, Baldur’s Gate 3 for example would not be made in a Saudi studio.

  • NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
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    3 days ago

    I wish people would get less emotionally attached to these corporate game studios. Like, it’s not the same people. Not the same leadership. Not the same artists. And so on.

    It’s just a collection of IP’s, that’s about it. Bioware from 2000 is not the same bioware from 2015 or 2026.

    Same can be said for the vast majority of game studios except a handful of indie shops, but do they really count as indie if they’ve been nurturing one IP for 15 years?

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      2 days ago

      And most of these legendary devs worked so hard for so long for such a small paycheck and zero benefits just to get layed off when it conveniences the studio

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      2 days ago

      Game companies really smarted up when they made gamers care more about the company behind the games than of the creative and technical people that actually create the games.

    • IamMoonPie@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Why do you assume it the studios they’re attached to and not the IPs? I for one am devistated that a) people are losing their jobs and b) I’m losing beloved future games I was hoping for.

      Maybe try a little empathy. Your comments constantly lack it.

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        3 days ago

        Because the IPs fuckin suck under the studio. Nobody cares about Anthem. Andromeda was a mid cashout of Mass Effect. Lord knows wtf they were going to do with Dragon Age. Few, if any people, like these IPs as they are; you like the promise they once held, because you forgot the one rule to responsibly engage with fiction: Good stories get to end. The games still exist. They’ll always exist, or at least as long as you or I are alive. Thus the IP always exists. What goes away is the studio, which, OK, bye

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          The IPs were created in a specific environment, with a specific set of people coming together to make them. Sure, others can join and create things of the same quality if the same environment is still present. But after so many years the minds these the IPs spawned from have almost all long since moved on or fill other roles. So if the current owners of the IP have no respect for it, dont care, etc. There’s zero reason to still remain invested after its shown they cant live up to the quality and promise of the original creators.

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    3 days ago

    Who cares about a brand?

    Did they make any notable game past mass effect? Honestly the last game I played from them that I thought was awesome was Jade Empire and that was when it first came out.

    Never had an opportunity to play mass effect when it was new but had no interest when I finally did have it on offer.

    Guess my point is Studio/publisher names mean nothing—it’s the actual people creating at the time that make the good stuff. Sorry for the seat warmers getting canned but anyone who made anything of note at that ~brand ~ had probably long since stopped making anything of note or moved on.

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    3 days ago

    Civvie11 on the YouTubes often lists some of the fine Studios the EA has voraciously consumed only to spit out when their bones are dry. Raven Software (via Activision merger) comes to mind. Also Neversoft… and MAXIS…

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    It’s hard to believe that titles like Mass Effect: Andromeda, Anthem and Dragon Age: The Veilguard couldn’t save them.

    It sucks to them die, but they did played an hand in their downfall.

  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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    Also Jade Empire! An under appreciated gem of a game. This is truly a shame, Bioware were one of the last big ones that actually gave a shit about making good games.

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    3 days ago

    Isn’t it a shame that a tiny handful of rich old assholes get to make unilateral decisions that affect all of us?

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    3 days ago

    Ban corporate ownership of other companies. It has no positive effects on the economy or the world.

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      3 days ago

      We have to just vote soulless corposuits out with our wallets. Too many business majors telling devs what to do.

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        2 days ago

        For Bioware, no. It’s too late for them. For the future, it’d prevent companies like EA buying up every half-successful dev company and feeding their IP into the machine to milk our nostalgia for profit.

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          But it wouldn’t prevent them from buying the IP. The only thing that solves the problem is preventing ip from changing hands, but that would definitely cause problems

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            It would reduce it, at least. Part of what makes those deals appealing to devs is the idea that the umbrella corporation will handle the business so the devs can do the dev work they love. Many of them would be much more reluctant to sell off ownership of their concepts and work entirely, and the ubrella corps would find it harder to milk nostalgia when they’ve only bought the name and not any of the creative team that made it real. Not impossible, but harder.

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              2 days ago

              If buying a company is illegal, there’s still no (practical) way to prevent the buying company say, “we’ll put you in your own separate Bioware team, no management changes for at least a year, we’ll hire anyone who wants to come over” etc. Basically, you’d have the exact same situation practically, just the legal bollocks would be different and it’d be slightly less convenient.

              • sunsofold@lemmy.zip
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                1 day ago

                Good. So much of adjusting people’s behaviour is just making it more convenient to do the right thing and less convenient to do the wrong thing. It’s impossible to get people to behave perfectly all the time, but the more inconvenient you make it to do the wrong thing, the more the human tendency toward laziness will keep them passively on the right path. There are no desire paths in a hedge maze.

  • anasofia214@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You know, maybe it’s not all that bad. Go indie and release directly on Steam. EA can burn in Saudi Arabia.