Skyrim.
Depends on the decade, honestly.
According to this thread overrated means either “games I didn’t like” or “games that didn’t work for me”.
Yes? I don’t understand this comment I don’t think. Isn’t that exactly what it means, the majority of people like this thing, and I don’t? Making it over rated? It’s not like there’s the “game rater” on earth like you might find a “name rater” in pokemon. Not like you can say “oh this guy objectively got this one wrong”.
No clue what name rater in pokemon is, but you do have OpenCritic, MetaCritic and the various awards some games get. I don’t think liking a game and thinking it’s overrated are mutually exclusive.
Okay. So what’s overrated to you then? You seem to have a different view than I do.
Is it AAA games that don’t deserve all the reviews and attention, so by definition, they’re overrated?
I’m genuinely curious too, maybe I should think of “over” or “under” rated, as more than just another way of saying “hot take” and expressing a generally contrarian opinion.
No, I don’t think it’s just AAA games that don’t deserve all the hype, I think indie games can be overrated too. To give an example of both categories:
For AAA, it has to be The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for me. And, I suppose, by extension Tears of the Kingdom. Good games, great characters and I really like the guardian enemy designs. Additionally, the game is a great showcase of what the hardware in the Nintendo Switch is capable of. The game is also highly rated on review sites and has received so many awards, wikipedia actually has to list them in a spreadsheet.
However, I genuinely think previous Zelda games are more fun. I think the vast, open world actually hurts the game, as it gradually becomes less about exploring and more about checking off tasks like finishing shrines and finding korok seeds. Previous Zelda games had smaller, more focused worlds and I think they were better for it. And even one would choose to ignore that, there’s the fact that weapons break every two seconds and you constantly have to replace them, which I feel most reviewers just glossed over. Combat is pretty frequent, after all, so it does get grating. In previous Zelda games you get the weapon and you keep it.
For indie, I have to point at Don’t Starve. And I want to focus on the original, not Don’t Starve Together, which has a slightly different approach. Very pretty, with great animations, involved game mechanics and great replayability. It is also well reviewed and was nominated for several awards (I think it only won one, but being nominated is impressive enough, I think).
I liked it well enough, but ultimately bounced off it. Reason being, I found the game kind of stingy with telling you how some of its mechanics work, so I played it with a wiki open in my browser. I also couldn’t bring myself to make additional playthroughs because of its glacial progression.
Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope this explains my position a little bit.
Thanks for the reply! So, you’re basically saying, in both examples, trying not to be reductionist here, but, “these are great games, and you don’t like them as much as everyone else seems to”. Very few people are going to have no complaints at all. I don’t see how my original point is invalid or how this is a different definition of overrated. Or how you stating your opinion is any different or more nuanced than anything else in this thread. Like, I could also just say your take on Zelda is just “a mechanic I don’t like”. So…
If I remembered it, it wouldn’t be overrated.
I’ll probably get hate for this but most Fromsoft games. I just have never been able to get into them at all. It has nothing to do with it being hard, I enjoy hard games and always play on the highest difficulty. I just can’t get into the combat, it’s not fun for me.
Sorry I hate you. Demon’s souls changed my life, and I’ve got 1000 hours into nightreign and probably 950 into Elden ring and I’ve played all the dark souls also. This formula is my Jam. I love them.
But at the end of the day… It’s not everyone’s cup of tea. I enjoy plenty of other games too. Hollow knight, balatro, etc.
Hey, don’t know if you are aware of the comm, but if not, join us !soulslike@lemmy.zip
I have much respect for “it’s not fun for me” and less patience for “it’s bad”. Totally understand why you might not find the games fun.
I love Fromsoft games, but I’ve always thought that people kind of have horse blinders on when evaluating them as a whole.
What I think sets them apart:
- the art
- the setting and vibe
- melee combat controls
What I think they severely lack:
- sometimes it feels like I have to google nearly everything in these games because they never explain mechanics/items/quests properly. Most people would argue that’s part of the charm, but I don’t think it’s executed well at all.
- Basic combat is generally very fluid, but there are things that are just straight trash, such as ranged weapons. I just won’t use those weapons for anything other than pulling mobs away from others
- the story is just so abstract sometimes that I rarely know etc is going on
- co-op multiplayer sucks. It really says something when a player-created mod works better than a system that’s been in multiple games
Dota and LoL. I shamelessly judge anyone who regularly plays either of those games by choice. Way too many people seem to like them.
Why though?
It was a neat Warcraft 3 custom map.
Then it got weird.
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Pattern here: both of them had sick music.
Factorio? League of Legends? World of Warcraft?
EA sports/fifa.
I’ll play flappy bird over that any day.
They’re video games for people who don’t like videogames.
Skyrim, until the mods came
Skyrim was extremely interesting when it was new because there wasn’t anything quite like it, but now there’s a lot of games that are like it and it’s not that great and it’s just kind of aged with mods or whatever
I hear you got an opinion
no I’ve never played it
I remember playing Skyrim at launch. The very first mod I downloaded was to restore Esbern’s voice lines; an npc critical to the main quest early on.
Bethesda forgot to reference his voice lines in the script, which broke the game.
Half Life 3
Goldeneye 007, N64.
The hype! The praise! The lack of mouse control!!
8 million kids using a twiddly joystick, and thinking it was good.
It’s an awful FPS experience.
* The facade of cool was actually a frog-mouthed monster.
And if this was your childhood fave, I’m jk.
By FPS standards it’s not great, if you take it more as a “first person action game” ala Metroid Prime, its appeal makes sense. To me it’s mainly impressive that they recreated so many parts of the movie and retold the story so well. But yeah people love it for the multiplayer which only impressed kids who didn’t have PCs at the time.
I remember playing it at a friend’s house and thinking “quake is better”, but the four player local play on one game and TV was an overwhelming factor.
Sounds like someone was butthurt because they didn’t get to play as Oddjob…
Fucking Oddjob.
I played this at a mates house for a total of 7 minutes. No OP Oddjob in sight.
And if this was your childhood fave, I’m jk.
Oh no, you are not getting off that easily!! I am still raging impotently at my phone with a frothing mouth!
The thing for me was this predated the PlayStation, so dual analog was not a thing yet. GoldenEye was, to my knowledge, the first to emulate this by using two controllers. We had a ton of fun with that. I still preferred LAN parties with mouse and keyboard. Lot of work, though.
The Last of Us part II demolished the prestige of The Last of Us. Its storytelling devastated the technical prowess of the company’s workers. To date, Naughty Dog hasn’t been able to produce any relevant game after circa The Last of Us. They produced part II which sold fine thanks to its predecessor, and they have made remasters and derivatives of the first game which is their milking cow.
Yet, part II has a following cult like flatearthers.
Expedition 33.
It won practically every single award even tho didn’t really deserve it.
Not an indie game either.
It was very pretty, and the soundtrack deserved the praise it received. Nothing too innovative about the gameplay though, and the story was good but typical for this genre.
That being said, I did enjoy it a lot. But that gameplay style is one of my favorites, so the visuals and music were just perks.
Oh yeh that looked cool I was pretty pumped about that. Is it not so good after all?
Obviously tastes differ. I thoroughly enjoyed it and felt it deserved the praise.
- The setting is original.
- Turn based with Parry/Dodge isn’t original (super Mario RPG) but it’s pretty satisfying here
- The stat/build system is fairly original and gives a lot of depth
- I thought the story was a solid examination of grief
If you enjoy RPGs it’s very good. Great soundtrack, good story, and to me very fun combat loop. Most of my friends love it too. But some people seem to bounce off it. It won every award for a reason.
To me the game very much lived up to the hype and I’d highly recommend giving it a try
Yeah I bought it on GOG based purely on the hype. Mistake. I played maybe 10h, got throught the introductory areas and started the main game. I just couldn’t. I am not sure why it gets so much praise.
Zelda Ocarina of Time is probably a solid contender.
Played it on our 3DS and it just felt like a worse Twilight Princess.
– Frost
OoT benefits mostly from being first for a lot of people. Your opinion is fairly common for people who played more recent Zelda titles first then went backwards.
That is a very hot take.
Glad to know there are people out there who actually prefer TP over OoT.
