Since the “they” modifies the church, that means the church is sinful? Agreed. In that case, what…Christians support the paedophiles, not the paedophilia?
Apologies for playing grammar games, but I will absolutely condemn your bigoted ideas.
The church, as with most people, does not separate people from their sexuality. The phrase “love the sinner, hate the sin” is disingenuous at best, allowing hatred to continue, but with the thin veneer of civility that makes the bigots feel comfortable in their smug judgement. That is 100% garbage and you and I both know this.
Stop defending inhumane institutions and be a better person.
Repeating the lie does not make it true. I’ve seen Christian “love” in action. Much of the time it is two-faced, disingenuous, and conditional. Not all Christians are like this of course, but enough are that it’s become a standard.
Perhaps you are a good person who just happens to swallow the lies of religion. I know people like that as well - people who are good not because of their religious upbringing but in spite of it. I hope some day you realise you have it within you to be more moral, kind, and accepting than the religious organisation you follow. And to do it without them.
If a paedophile is demonstrating repentance and wanting to turn away from paedophilia, then yes, we should forgive and support them in not practicing paedophilia.
They had better demonstrate more than repentance, and there had better be legal recourse, victim-guided restitution and safeguards established. None of this “just move Father Barnes to a congregation in El Salvador and hide all documentation without doing anything further” garbage, as the church has done consistently forever.
You said that they better demonstrate more than repentance and then described what repentance is. Repentance isn’t simply just saying “sorry” with your mouth
the church will never do gay couple blessings as they are sinful and they cannot engage and support sin
support the sinners, not the sin
Since the “they” modifies the church, that means the church is sinful? Agreed. In that case, what…Christians support the paedophiles, not the paedophilia?
“they” refers to the act of homosexuality im european (not british nor american) so forgive my grammar
Apologies for playing grammar games, but I will absolutely condemn your bigoted ideas.
The church, as with most people, does not separate people from their sexuality. The phrase “love the sinner, hate the sin” is disingenuous at best, allowing hatred to continue, but with the thin veneer of civility that makes the bigots feel comfortable in their smug judgement. That is 100% garbage and you and I both know this.
Stop defending inhumane institutions and be a better person.
We love the sinners Hate the sin we love the people we love ALL people we hate NO people
Repeating the lie does not make it true. I’ve seen Christian “love” in action. Much of the time it is two-faced, disingenuous, and conditional. Not all Christians are like this of course, but enough are that it’s become a standard.
Perhaps you are a good person who just happens to swallow the lies of religion. I know people like that as well - people who are good not because of their religious upbringing but in spite of it. I hope some day you realise you have it within you to be more moral, kind, and accepting than the religious organisation you follow. And to do it without them.
those people are the loud minority visit a Monastery, Frater.
Literally said “not all Christians” but my point still stands. And I have better things to do than visit a religious institution I don’t respect.
you hate the entire church for the actions of a few?
and in the 1700s “an good person” meant someone who didnt beat their slave
And it was still wrong. You’d think your all knowing god would know that if he’s such a moral peraon.
This was in the BCs and it does not apply anymore
“Moral” and “Good” standards change every year
in 20 years, the best person you know could be absolute evil
If a paedophile is demonstrating repentance and wanting to turn away from paedophilia, then yes, we should forgive and support them in not practicing paedophilia.
They had better demonstrate more than repentance, and there had better be legal recourse, victim-guided restitution and safeguards established. None of this “just move Father Barnes to a congregation in El Salvador and hide all documentation without doing anything further” garbage, as the church has done consistently forever.
You said that they better demonstrate more than repentance and then described what repentance is. Repentance isn’t simply just saying “sorry” with your mouth
And yet that seems good enough for the in group more often than not.
we are all sinners
and the Church supports EVERYBODY not their sins
If Adolf Hitler walked into the Church, he would be allowed to confess his sins and become a Catchumen