"Cuba’s got problems. We’ll finish one first. I like to finish a job," the president told the Forum Club of the Palm Beaches.

President Donald Trump said Friday during remarks in Florida that the United States would take over Cuba “almost immediately,” suggesting an aircraft carrier could be positioned offshore after the conflict in Iran.

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While the president’s comments appeared partly joking, they followed concrete policy action in the form of broadened sanctions.

  • 8oow3291d@feddit.dkOPEnglish
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    5 months ago

    The article says “partly joking”, but it would be insane to not take the US President seriously when he says stuff like that.

    • red_green_black@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      5 months ago

      He no doubt does want to do a regime change operation against Cuba. It’s just the resources are tied up with trying to get Iran to re-open the strait, give up their nuclear program, and disband the Axis of Resistance Network.

      Result is the US is not coming and any change has to happen inside the country. Which isn’t going to happen thanks to the US starving the people of needed resources

      • Maeve@kbin.earth
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        5 months ago

        Result is the US is not coming and any change has to happen inside the country.

        And the Cuban people overall like their government. Any pressing issues are wholly the fault of the USA, as far as can be assessed.

        • red_green_black@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Sorry but from the information I can gather the Cuban people have similar opinions as Iranians have for their government.

          They don’t like them, with real reason for no revolution because the US is not genuinely helping the people but trying to get their own oligarchs in power.

          With both sides shooting the best the people in the middle can do is keep their head down and survive (unfortunately)

        • crandlecan@mander.xyzEnglish
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          5 months ago

          No they don’t lmao. Only the old generations still alive after the Revolution when they kicked out the USA are still die-hards. Most of the younger to middle aged people in general hate the Cuban government. How couldn’t they? They live the life while regular ppl have nothing due to the horrible sanctions by the USA. You don’t win hearts and minds with poverty, hunger, disease and death.

          • red_green_black@slrpnk.netEnglish
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            5 months ago

            While the Cuban people don’t love the sanctions the reason for anti-goverment sentiment is the state apparatus not looking like doing anything to resolve the crisis but put more in the so called revolutionary defense committee and security institutions

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              5 months ago

              but put more in the so called revolutionary defense committee and security institutions

              I mean, maybe rightfully so since they’ve been threatened constantly for the past year.

              • red_green_black@slrpnk.netEnglish
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                5 months ago

                And where do those threats come from? What I refer to is internal enforcement, IE concern of a threat on the Island.

      • realitista@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        The US will use up all it’s ammo on these operations and squander all it’s goodwill with allies, then someone will probably attack it’s interests around the world.

    • el_muerte@lemmy.caEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Yep. He’s “partly joking” about everything right up until the second he isn’t.

      • ferrule@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Whats even more crazy is you can show a MAGA an old statement of his and they say he is joking. Then show them him acting on that statement and you can actually see their brain melt.

    • Kirp123@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 months ago

      That’s what we call sane washing. He’s one of the most powerful people on the planet, his words have weight, this is not some crazy guy on the street corner.

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      5 months ago

      suggesting an aircraft carrier could be positioned offshore after the conflict in Iran.

      Don’t worry, the “conflict” in Iran isn’t ending any time soon…

      • dermanus@lemmy.caEnglish
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        5 months ago

        What are you talking about? It ended at least three times already this year!

        • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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          5 months ago

          That’s so much winning, I just can’t keep up.

          Maybe if he ends the war a few more times he’ll finally get that peace prize…

    • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Because a communist country minding its own business while trying to provide for its people is evil, while a capitalist country bombing country after country non-stop for decades while trying to provide for a handful of billionaire sociopath pedophiles is good.

  • Creddit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    I’m pretty sure invading Cuba during this Trump administration would result in the next(Democrat) administration following through with complete annexation and, I’d wager, the creation of a new US State of Cuba.

    It may even result in Puerto Rico statehood and D.C. statehood simultaneously.

    Because, by the time Trump is out of office, the news cycle will have moved all the way through outrage to regret to acceptance and finally to “what is the most humane thing to do now?”

    Democrat liberal voters will conveniently conclude the most ethical path is to make more left-leaning states while they have the chance, because not doing so means the following elections lean rightward again and risk another Trump-like administration takes over.

    • partofthevoice@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      5 months ago

      I hate that. Because that means some philosophers are right about modern liberalism. You pretend to have tolerance, freedom, open-debate… until you really want or need something, then you elect a tyrannical leader who will break the rules to get you where you need to be. After that, you collect your wins and the charade of liberalism goes back up.

      We need a long reckoning after Trump. Not a win.

      • Creddit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        I don’t follow philosophical literature, but I almost 100% agree with that.

        The only thing I would add is that modern American “liberals” are like the modern American “religious”. They vote for people who call themselves “liberal” and they call themselves “liberal” but they don’t read and they don’t really believe canonical “liberal” things if those positions do not serve them personally on issues they care about.

        I do not believe there is a monolithic “liberalism”. To have a philosophical discussion about “liberalism” we have to paint in broad coalition strokes to stipulate that “liberals” are a cohesive group anymore(going back as far as I can remember, not just the last decade).

        I think the prevailing popular realization is that both the Democrat and Republican parties are parties of the wealthy capital class and, importantly, that the wealthy capital class majorly overlaps with an unethical and violently extremist “Epstein” class.

        Progressive candidates begrudgingly run under the Democrat banner while Libertarian candidates begrudgingly run under the Republican banner, but there is now a single “liberal”(read “change”) issue on the minds of the American electorate across both parties: Will the candidate bring the “Epstein” class to sufficient justice?

        I think this single issue will override voting axes for a decade, beyond even questions about going to war or annexing another country.

        I don’t think “liberalism” is a charade per se, I just think Americans are facing so many existential political problems that they have to prioritize and I’d wager they will prioritize voting for someone who will force Trump’s cadre of pedophiles to trial even if that someone is also annexing Cuba.

  • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Remember when we “couldn’t” help Puerto Rico after Maria because Puerto Rico is an island, surrounded by big water, ocean water?

    Trump on Friday said the disaster relief effort in Puerto Rico is complicated because it is “surrounded by water.” “This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water,” the president said during a speech in Washington on his tax plan.

    • Puddinghelmet@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 months ago

      America is already attacking cuba by stopping all oil and energy towards the country, untill they release some political prisoners… according to news, america is holding cuba hostage energy wise… wtf