The problem is this is already being used to do political censorship so any restriction on what users can install on their device is harmful, because it’s not just weird nerds but people need to use other apps like ice watch
Patrick Campanale, you’re a spineless corporate shill and I hope one day, you will pay for that spinelessness
The comments on that article seem to agree with you.
Link?
I don’t want to push too much traffic to this guy’s post but it’s titled “Android’s new 24-hour sideloading delay should’ve happened years ago”
https://www.howtogeek.com/android-24-hour-sideloading-delay-shouldve-happened-years-ago/#threads
You can visit it with uBlock so you don’t generate them money.
Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via “sideloading non verified apps?”
I do not know the number. But I don’t think there are that many cases. Most scams I’ve seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.
Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you’re going out of your way to install non-standard apps you’re likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.
If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you’d probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.
How much did Google pay him to write this? Asking for a friend
Also, it locks alternative sources to the Play Store out. How convenient, right?
grapheneOS wont be affected by this so, atleast we dont loose all hope
Yeah, but those few million users are not global-market-relevant.
It’s still good.
GrapheneOS unaffected - > more enthusiasts switch to it - > more funding - > better UX - > more interest, more adoption from less tech savvy people, possible professional grapheneOS installation services (think a guy helping gam gam install windows for a bit of cash, to start)
And so begins the beautiful cycle of mainstream adoption of something great
Or at least that’s what I tell myself when the current tech world scares me at night
a dream for the FOSS, which i hope becomes real
Graphene, at least in its current state, is dependent on Google continuing to allow Pixel phone bootloader’s to be unlocked and relocked after a new OS is installed, and is dependent on Google for receiving timely upstream security update patches as well. Given Google’s current direction my guess is that both these things might be threatened in the future.
Are you mistaking GtapheneOS with LineageOS? GrapheneOS is for security enthusiasts, too inconvenient and limited to devices for me.
No, I mean grapheneOS. From my findings you get pretty much everything that a normal android phone gets, except contactless payments because of the google and apple duopoly on that front.
You can set up multiple users / containers, separate out google bs from your own private life, etc, all pretty intuitively if I remember right.
I’ve only heard of LineageOS here and there. I’m fully unfamiliar with that one
You can technically use Curve. Though I immediately got flagged for extra verification and the support team said that the verification team is overloaded so not to hold my breath. Been waiting for over a month now.
That’s what you get for not being a corporate drone.
Yea I tried Curve too but couldn’t get past KYC… I was told to message support, did so, and got no response in like a month.
I asked for my data to be deleted, and waited another month for a response. Now it’s deleted supposedly.
Idk seems pretty unproffesional to me… They probably only support the largest EU countries ID’s…
There is an even worse consequence. If the “advanced flow” is managed by Google Play Services, under the current mechanism, scammers can simply tell their victims to disable Google Play Services. Consequently, Google could block the ability to disable their proprietary blobs under the pretext of “protecting users”.
“Sideloading” is obviously a ridiculous term made by Google. Is there anything called like this on Windows?
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Makes me think of this overgrown pinky toe.
Literally why would I not just buy an iphone if google goes through with disabling sideloading
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Yes I call it side loading and I will continue to because its just what its called when you install through means outside of an official repo. using this term is not an acvnowledgement of any vind of illegitimacy of this process.
Indian accent: “Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don’t tell anyone you received this call.”
The real sollution is tolock Infia off the internet until they crack down on all their scammers.
Is this winston churchhill?
Hey maybe you’re not racist, maybe you’re just watching too many youtube videos
I basically never watch Youtube, its kind of cancer and Google is a spyware company.
And this isn’t about race, its about a country cleaning up its own act. I feel basically the same way about Russia, for example. There isn’t an online servixe or system that sould not drasticly improve if Russians were blocked from the larger web. Its basically a factory for misinformation and assholes.
Yes, there are many problematic states, probably all of them. That’s why people thought it was sus when you singled out india.
My advice: Download a geo-IP database and firewall yourself in.
Don’t worry buddy, I get it. I feel the same way about USA
The question is then if you feel the same about Russia, China, Iran, and Israel?
I mean, yes, but not nearly as much
There are scammer call centers in many countries throughout the world. So unless you want to start shutting off a lot of developing nations from the internet, that’s not a good solution.
It’s also not a good solution because there will always be a workaround.
The work around is to get Jason Statham to live out his Beekeeper role IRL.
Ban phone calls? It’s long overdue.
Why do we even need to have a phone number just to have access to the internet on the go?
Whats even better is that they usually just use team viewer for remote access, which is ON THE PLAY STORE
Right, the real solution is not letting old people answer phone calls anymore, I guess, lol.
Remind me why the fuck I removed Google Play Services from my Motorola here and replaced them with microG because of a maps app that needed it? Oh it’s because of this… Yeah. Lol.
“Sideloading” is anti-property-rights loaded language.
The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is “installing normally.”
It is the act of capitulating to Google’s control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I’ve been able to come up with is “cuckloading,” though I’m not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.
Might be easier to come up with a specific name for installing something from Google. “Google loading” maybe.
The we just go back to “installing”.
Walled-Garden-stalling?
“A googol steps to add an app”
Authoritarian-stall
Package Micromanager
Daddy Google’s allowances
Controlware / Slaveware / Theirware
“Google loading” isn’t derisive enough. The example I came up with isn’t quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like “simploading?” Or “dipshitloading?” “Brownloading” (think like “brownnosing”)? IDK, I’m just spitballing here.
“Slaveloading”. Because who doesn’t want to be a corporate slave?
I was thinking bitchloading. Cause you’re their bitch.
To really sell it in the US anyway, you could try renaming sideloading to “freedomloading” or maybe “freeloading” (which sounds very Tom Petty, or porn related like “loadblowing”)
Then to rename the vendor locked loading is tricky. Even the old term “jailbreaking” has negative or criminal connotations. Though the jail is where you were wrongfully imprisoned, but that doesn’t convey easily. You could try to flip it around and call the locked down version “jail loading”. Or “commie loading”, all you would need to do is get some democrats to pretend to support vendor lockin.
Problem is any legislator on either side is in the pocket of the corporations who will oppose this, so there is no incentive for a propaganda campaign on the other side. So everyone will renain convinced sideloading is evil criminal hacker shit.
you could try renaming sideloading to “freedomloading” or maybe “freeloading”
freeloading is already a verb in english, and not the one you’re looking for
“Ransom loading”?
Nah cuckloading is perfect. The best way to make an insult like that not effectively belong to the sexists is just to use it in non-sexist contexts. The intrinsic meaning of cuck is perfect for this. Fuck the extrinsic meaning. We can change that.
“Sexism adjacent”…
Complains about how language is politicized and used to control people and then turn around and do the same exact thing for another topic in the same breath. Jesus.
Awww… Uncle Google just wants what’s best for me! So what’s the harm in getting into his van? What’s the worst that could happen?
Bruh screw android and its updates, it fucked up and it keeps getting worse, its updates are very occasional, at least if they were worthy then fine i’m with ya, but no, they are just junk, they slow down my phone and are many times buggy; it keep restricting users and developers under the term of ‘security’, go fuck ur security, I know what I’m doing, either gimme full control over my property or fuck off. This is MA phone NOT urs!
When I get a new phone, I’ll either find a way to get an old android version like v10, or just find another system.
I’m not going to spend good money on another Android phone and because of this. I used to be willing to tolerate it to some extent but I’m done now. Any further Android devices are going to be low-end burner phones for a specific needs that I can’t meet otherwise. Having a Linux phone is now a matter of necessity not something that would be nice to have
Even my windows using wife is considering a Linux phone over this
Is 2026 going to be the year of the Linux handheld?
(No, Android is no more a Linux OS than the PlayStation is a BSD fork.)
I highly doubt 2026 will be the year of the Linux handheld. But if Linux on the desktop continues growing the way it currently is, it could lay the groundwork for Linux on handhelds.
Realistically, I don’t think any year will be the year when Linux for mobile takes off, ironically for the same reason why Windows Phone failed, and that is app availability, or the “will my banking app work on it?” problem.
you can use most android apps on linux as far as i know
We really can’t find a sincere friendly OS like Linux. I wish Linux and other friendly phone systems had more hardware support. Android is dominating with its “I’m the ruler” philosophy, bc Google knows the alternatives are limited.
If you root Android… It’s pretty much a Linux OS.
The majority of people
Stop using such shit excuses. Keep Android Open!!
The majority of people have 2 arms. So why bother with prosthetics or research into biofeedback?
See, it’s flawless logic /s
The majority of people are stupid. Who would have thought.
the majority of people would like to have a piece of my paycheck, so I’m giving some away
-statements dreamed by the utterly deranged
-cunts that write shitty articles like this
I feel like this is terribly unfunny but mom didn’t make no bitch so I’m not deleting it
Which is not our problem.
If they are stupid they need education. Not rubber tiles and safety fences.
And now we know this “reporter”, Patrick Campanale, is a bootlicker
More than likely ‘Patrick Campanale’ is just ChatGPT
Let’s not jump to conclusions! He just might really be this stupid to believe these claims.
Let’s punish both types in the same manner to make them both stop.
I like the energy but, ideally, stupidity/ignorance should be punished with education.
Can’t cure stupidity, except if it’s based on a lack of knowledge, right? Then again, the stupid-stupid person will just see education as a punishment 😁
